No 'speed shooting' at range?

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Last weekend, I decided to try a new range in the area and took the long drive out. I was initially impressed with the range as it was very, very neat, clean and well organized and despite the steep $15\person range fee.

Upon arriving at the pistol range, I noticed some signs stating "No speed shooting" in large bold letters. There were three of us shooting in three seperate stalls and after about 15 minutes or so the range master guy comes walking over from the rifle range. He stopped us and gave us a short but rather curt lecture about 'speed shooting' saying that a) the three second rule means just that, b) their insurance didn't allow for any deviation from this rule and c) recently a boy had been killed because of 'speed shooting' over in Dallas.

Mind you, I had been shooting quickly (approximately one shot per second for one magazine) but hardly as fast as what I have seen and would consider 'speed shooting'. In any case, I really couldn't argue with points a and b above (their range, their rules) but point c really bugged me. I can't really imagine a scenario where anyone could be killed and the culprit would be deemed to be the 'speed shooting' providing all of the other basic rules were followed. My point being, all things being equal, somebody must've really screwed up badly in some way but to blame it on 'speed shooting' seems a bit rediculous. Am I way off base here?:confused:
 
I don't know. The control freaks seem to be taking over the world. We recently got a new RO at our range and the first thing he did was to ban shooting at golfballs and clays on the berms. Claims it's 'dangerous'. :rolleyes:
 
Which range in Ft. Worth? For 15 bucks I can think of a lot of ranges you can go to and let 'er rip. I normally go to the Shooters Gallery.
 
I've been to a few ranges where the three second rule is in effect.i prefer going to my in-laws out in the country to do most of my shooting.
 
That's kind of crazy on one hand, but on the other I know I have been shooting my bolt guns and actually trying to hit something and had a guy next to me dumping 30 rounders out of his AR. Don't get me wrong I like to empty some mags every once in a while. :D
 
Where I used to live (CA), most ranges didn't allow it. Or rather, their insurance wouldn't allow it. One explanation I got (at an indoor pistol range) was that if someone tried rapid fire and the muzzle climbed to high, a bullet could hit the clamp thing above the lane that holds the paper target, and the bullet could bounce back and hit them. Maybe something like that is what killed that one person mentioned above. :confused:

Where I live now, the indoor pistol range allows rapid fire, empty the whole magazine as fast as you want, all day long, as long as you can control it. On the other hand, the outdoor range where I shoot rifles won't even allow more than one round in the magazine. All semi-auto rifles have to be fired single-shot. No point in even bringing your magazines with you.
 
Rock Creek Range LP
8137 FM 1902
Joshua, TX 76058

I wound up not being happy with the range overall. At the rifle range, you have to shoot through a large concrete tube. The reverb was horrible.:scrutiny:
 
At the rifle range, you have to shoot through a large concrete tube. The reverb was horrible
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There's a solution without a problem. Guess you can't be too careful. :scrutiny:
 
For some reason I'm picturing George Soros being on the board of this insurance company :scrutiny: :fire:
 
What's next...blanks only?!

Anytime insurance companies get involved, policies become screwed up. If they had their way, we'd all have to fire blanks only.

Doc2005
 
Anytime insurance companies get involved, policies become screwed up. If they had their way, we'd all have to fire blanks only.
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Primers only please, no powder; too loud; might lead to hearing losses.
 
That's another one of those ranges that is more concerned with trap shooters and deer hunters than anything else just like Alpine.
 
Where I used to live (CA), most ranges didn't allow it. Or rather, their insurance wouldn't allow it.
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I keep reading about these mysterious insurance companies, but nobody ever posts their names and addresses, still less quotes from policies.

I think they're a myth.
 
Sir Aardvark said:
Our "Speed Shooting" rules at the local range means 1 shot per second.
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i would assume you are refering to Angeles Range. yup, 1 shot per second...but they do allow you to double tap.
 
I was at an indoor range about 15 years ago. There were only 3 out of 10 shooting lanes being used. In the middle, a guy started shooting a 45 Auto chambered Revolver. It looked like something from WW1 (1917 model?). He didn't hit the target slow fire so he tried rapid fire. :eek: The first shot was close to the target frame. The 2nd and 3rd shot made nice holes in the ceiling. The 4th or 5th shot (maybe both) took out the florescent light fixture that was at least a 45 degree angle up from the target and only 3-4 yards in front on him. He fired the 6th shot as the light fixture components were falling in front of him........ I have no clue where it went. He quickly packed up and left without a word to anyone.

I hate the slow fire only rule, but can sort of see the range having such a rule due to idiots as described above. I shoot at an outdoor range with no speed restrictions and usually have the place to myself.
 
the range I went to the other day had no such warnings agianst rapid fire but they did have a rule for no head shots. The stop or whatever its called in the back is one of those steel ones thats on and angle and breaks the bullet up and if you shoot high enough for a head shot it breaks up but doesnt always go where its suppsoed to and can send fragments back.
 
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In the middle, a guy started shooting a 45 Auto chambered Revolver. It looked like something from WW1 (1917 model?). He didn't hit the target slow fire so he tried rapid fire. :eek: The first shot was close to the target frame. The 2nd and 3rd shot made nice holes in the ceiling. The 4th or 5th shot (maybe both) took out the florescent light fixture that was at least a 45 degree angle up from the target and only 3-4 yards in front on him. He fired the 6th shot as the light fixture components were falling in front of him........
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And that is why some ranges don't allow rapid fire. It's just easier for them to blame it on their insurance companies.

Out of the three ranges i frequent, none have rules against rapid fire. Basically the only restrictions are no tracers and use the range target frames only. And i can see their point. To many people bring things like soda cans, etc. and leave them for the range crew to clean up. All it takes is a few slobs to ruin it for everyone else.
 
One shot every three second is over-regulation, IMO

I would go with one shot per second, as Aardvark said. That is not excessive. With a 10/22 it is downright tame.
 
One in three makes it really hard to practice the rapid fire string for Bullseye
(5 in 10) which is quite tame compared to some of the other disciplines.
As long as you can keep them on the paper, I don't see where there would be a problem. However if you can't keep them on target you should be slowing down anyway.

Dean
 
At the Busch Wildlife, and at the Jay Henges, both excellent ranges in the St. Louis area (20 position to 100 yards, covered, $3/hr per booth - not per person - and they supply targets, ear and eye protection), the rule is three seconds between shots. It is a pain not being able to practice for IDPA, but I understand it, and live with it.

At the St. Louis Benchrest Club, in Wright City, the rule is two seconds between shots where the backup berm is beyond 25 yards. Not a bad rule, and members 'police' themselves - and rather well, I may add. OK to shoot faster at the closer distances.
 
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