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Nosler plant explosion

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by xtratoy, Jun 2, 2010.

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  1. xtratoy

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    I heard on the local news that the Nosler plant in Bend Or. had an explosion that blew the roof off. They were speculating that that explosion may have been located in the ballistics lab. http://kohd.com/news/local/176294
     
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    Perhaps. Or residue built up in an air vent, or machine, or in whatever they typically use to clean, or who knows over the years.




    Most buildings designed with the intended purpose being working with explosives inside have weaker portions of the structure intended to be the path of least resistance.
    That channels the explosive energy into a less dangerous direction, and results in less pressure build up before that section gives out. Which can mean a less powerful explosion, and other sections of the building being spared or receiving minor damage.
    This means explosions that would typically be fatal for many or damage for more of the structure or nearby structures have the damage minimized in a building so designed.
     
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    Sounds like someone double charged a case.


    Kidding! I'm kidding!!!

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    Pic of the facility from the Nosler reloading forum

    NoslerSW.jpg
     
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    That looks like a bit more than just the roof blew off . . . .
     
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    Firefighting system was still pressurized, that's good. Also read everyone made it out alive, VERY good. Buildings can be replaced, people cannot be reloaded.
     
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    Nosler makes bullets, not full cartridges, correct? So except for testing they should not have a lot of powder in the plant. I’m thinking the cause of the explosion is not related to making bullets, and is the type of explosion that occurs sometimes in factories that make anything.

    Also, as noted above, looks like more than just the roof blew off. The photo above does not look like a designed weak point in the building giving way to relieve pressure.
     
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    Don't know about this particular plant, but Nosler does make loaded ammunition. It's high end stuff that costs a bit more than average.
     
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    wow! glad no one killed
    that looks a lot like a gas explosion i worked on as far as stuff spread out no fire
    is there a part of the process that produces explosive/flammable gases? we blew up a lab i worked at when we lost power to a ventilation system near 6 very high temp furnaces. the furnaces stayed on the gases built up and then ignited. thankfully we were all out of the building , unfortunately we were down the street watching the football game. the boss was not pleased
     
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    Wow, it sure is lucky no one was killed or injured.
     
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    IMHO It looks as if the building is constructed out of some fairly flammable materials.

    Looks like alot of wood, paper, wooden beams, some plastic material, cardboard boxes, more wood......

    I would think that if you were in the bullet business, what with gun powder and all, it would be beneficial to construct your building out of stuff like metal, stone, and other materials less inclined to burn.

    Fortunately, it looks as if it was merely a pressure explosion and not a fireball. Thank God everyone made it out alive.
     
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    They said on the news this morning it collapsed an 8,000sq.ft. section of the 80,000sq.ft. plant. Glad nobody was hurt, although one employee's car was buried in rubble :uhoh:
     
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    Must have been a Glock



    Just kidding.
     
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    Laminated wooden beams are the norm in Oregon since wood is so cheap and readily available. You see them in large buildings, warehouses, grocery stores etc. Heck I remember about 15 years ago they would deck floors of houses with tongue and groove 2X4's and not plywood.

    Says something about their safety if no one was killed in that.
     
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    Husker Fan, dang it, you owe me a new keyboard!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Thats the intent, but I can show you what's left of an earth covered igloo in northern California. They found chunks of concrete and parts of the steel doors on a mountainside about four miles away.
     
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    Probably some terrorist plot...:uhoh:
     
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    :eek:

    apparently this company does not concern themselves with government mandated safety protocols.
     
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    Part of the building, but not other parts. Stronger materials contain explosions better, generate more pressure, and generally make for bigger booms. Even though they may be more fire resistant.


    An earth covered building with steel doors and made of concrete would be about one of the most dangerous explosive containing buildings if it actually did have enough pressure to blow.
    By definition the much stronger materials will trap the pressure in longer, generating much higher pressure and resulting in a much bigger explosion when it goes.

    If you put a weak firecracker on your flat palm it will likely burn you. If you close your fist around it it will likely blow off parts of your hand.
    Similarly the tougher the casing around an explosive the more pressure it generates before it explodes. Steel will explode with a lot more force than paper for example.
    As will a steel or concrete walls compared to a plaster and wood.

    Without knowing the layout of the building who can say?
    A properly designed test area would actually be set up to blow up separately and away from the people inside the building.
    Making the path of least resistance away from the people and outside of the building. Channeling the explosive energy away from people and the rest of the building.
    So without knowing the layout of the building and test area it is hard to say if it did not work exactly as intended in the event of an explosion.

    It is kinda like crumple zones in modern cars. It sure makes them take a lot of damage from much more minor impacts, but it is intentional so that the damage is predictable and can be engineered to send the force in a desired direction.
     
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    Babysitting explosives is risky business, it would appear the odds caught up with them. Thank God and all the Saints no one was hurt. I have my 'theory' on the cause but with the lack of information given feel it best not to say.
     
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    I am just thankful everyone made it out.
     
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    Smokeless powder isn't explosive. Flammable, but not explosive.
     
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    the building no longer has a layout, it blew up. that's how you can say. ;)
     
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    Smokeless powder is a mix of nitroglycerin and nitrocellulose. If it's not an explosive then neither is dynamite.
     
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