110 machine guns plus grenades...

[30 cal slob]

How do you justify keeping GRENADES and GRENADE LAUNCHERS at home? Why would anybody want to have such things?

well, i dunno 'bout you, but i have a wicked bad woodchuck infestation in my yard.

 

[SaxonPig]

I think only the most radical folks would defend on the right to own explosives, artillery, crew-served weapons, etc. Most Constitutional scholars who support the Second Amendment hold that it enumerates the right to keep and bear the type of arms typical owned by the individual who is not a professional soldier, not obvious military hardware.

I defend to the death the right of lawful citizens to own, use and carry the firearms of their choice.

Grenades? Grenade launchers? Flame throwers? Howitzers? Nukes? These are over the line.

 

[Gunnerpalace]

I suspect you just set a new world record in 'jumping to conclusions'.

Possibly but....

I think only the most radical folks would defend on the right to own explosives, artillery, crew-served weapons,

that would be me, the 2nd amendment guarantees our right to own any modern military crew served weapon. Not nukes, nerve gas, etc.

I thought I would get a lot more abuse over this but the tread is early.

 

[lucky_fool]

Prosecutors described the pair's extensive international travel as suspicious, noting that Kuldip Mann had crossed the U.S. border, coming in or leaving, 325 times since March 2007, including eight times in a truck. Randeep Mann crossed the border 121 times during the same period, Oliver said.

Kuldip Mann averaged a border crossing every 2 days for 2 years? I like to travel as much as the next guy, but that sounds a little fishy. And I don't mean it makes the guy sound guilty, it sounds like the numbers are wrong.

Especially if he's flying to India. What did he do, get off the plane in Mumbai and then walk straight to the departure gate for his flight back to the states?

 

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

I'll believe that the supposed "illegal grenades" are just that, the day same is proven in court. In fact, I believe NOTHING that LEOs of any kind say to the media about a suspect they are trying to hang until it's proven in court. LEO spokespeople and district attorneys LIE all the time. They also use misleading statements all the time. We KNOW this much. Why would we believe them now? Maybe they are illegal explosives; maybe they ain't; we just don't know yet. At least he has enough jack to get a good lawyer.

 

[Geronimo45]

every 2 days for 2 years?

No. The 325 figure is entering AND leaving the US border - so it's only half of that for times that he's left the country. 163 trips in 2 years = 81 trips a year. The prosecutor's artificially inflating the numbers by counting entering and exiting the country.

 

[CoRoMo]

How do you justify keeping GRENADES and GRENADE LAUNCHERS at home?

Keeping them off-site is tactically unwise. It is best to keep them where you can control them, secure them, and access them quickly if needed.

 

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

How do you justify keeping GRENADES and GRENADE LAUNCHERS at home?

Keeping them off-site is tactically unwise. It is best to keep them where you can control them, secure them, and access them quickly if needed.

Now that's funny right there; I concur!

 

[SaxonPig]

I do not want my neighbors keeping explosives in their homes. Call me kooky.

I do not feel the need to own grenades or flame throwers or 500 pound bombs. That's excessive. These are not defensive weapons they are offensive and I do not believe the Second Amendment intended to protect weapons beyond small arms of the type a militiaman would be expected to keep in his home. The artillery belongs in the armory, not in the garage next to the Buick.

Also, many posters are criticizing the newspaper, suggesting an anti-gun agenda in the reporting. This paper is very fair in its reporting and generally takes a Conservative tilt in its editorials. I have found it to be very fair to gun owners and has not ever been anti-Second Amendment.

 

[CapnMac]

SaxonPig, help me with this:

I defend to the death the right of lawful citizens to own, use and carry the firearms of their choice.

Then, in the next sentence you want to limit the choices that can be made.

Which is it?

I had neighbors who were far more dangerous with their 870s than i ever was with LBE rigged for toting a 203 around. A flame thrower next door is more dangerous than the dufus reloading shot shells while smoking (and drinking)?

 

[CapnMac]

I do not believe the Second Amendment intended to protect weapons beyond small arms of the type a militiaman would be expected to keep in his home.

Might want to go back and read the history about 19 April again. Minutemen were expected to carry the fight to the enemy. Defensive versus offensive is in the action, the mens rea, of it.

This is the very heart and soul of asymetrical situations--you often have to be willing/able to change the parameters to suit your strengths, not those of the BGs.

Come the Zombie Apocalypse, you want me to huddle in the house, or go to the head of the street and attempt to close the tap, as it were?

 

[Low Budget Shooter]

Did anyone else enjoy the half-and-half description of a tripod-mounted .50 caliber sniper rifle, in the list of machine guns? It seems to me that if the agency personnel who make a firearms-related arrest cannot even describe the firearms in question accurately, but do so anyway as if they do know, and arrest a U.S. citizen on that basis, then everything they say about the arrest lacks credibility.

Of course I want real criminals arrested as much as anyone else does, but come one, government agents, get this stuff right!

LBS

 

[Gunnerpalace]

I do not believe the Second Amendment intended to protect weapons beyond small arms of the type a militiaman would be expected to keep in his home.

Privately owned cannons during the Revolution.

 

[nalioth]

I do not believe the Second Amendment intended to protect weapons beyond small arms of the type a militiaman would be expected to keep in his home.

Privately owned cannons during the Revolution.

Don't forget the privately owned battleships (complete with cannons up and down the length).

 

[warnerwh]

We really can't be too sure of what is going on. The media is more than happy to twist and sensationalize every bit they can. The truth will hopefully be coming out. The only reason I don't have a hundred machine guns is because I don't have the money. If I did have the money I would as well as buy a nice stamp for each of a 1,000 grenades I bought. That would make a good start for the arsenal I'd put together just for fun.