I remember from the late 1980's that there were 1500 NYC residents that had FFLs and between them owned 2000 automatic weapons. The regime passed a decree that said you have 6 months to surrender them or get them out of state.
bush was in favor of extending the AWB it was the gop led house and senate that made him sunset it. he was like his father a blueblood Rockefeller country club gop guyLike I said, I'd say we are in line to win the war in Colorado.
Bush didn't sign an AWB. That's factual reality.
The recent landmark SCOTUS 2A cases have gone our way, and congress has refused to put an AWB or anything else Hussein asked for on his desk. That says 2/3 of our branches are not wanting to turn the 2A into a distant memory. That's factual reality.
It isn't just the politicians that need to voted out, the media needs to be replaced as well. The media actually came out against black powder guns. The media called it a "loophole".
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&id=5714222
" Eyewitness News went undercover at Dicks Sporting Goods store in Upstate New York and with less information than is needed to borrow a library book, we bought a 50-caliber black powder hunting rifle. We just counted out the cash, about $200 and walked away with a brand new, highly powerful weapon.
So, 10 minutes inside this store, I was able to get a gun identical to the one the St. John's student had. I got this with no questions asked, no background check, no identification needed -- all perfectly legal. Let's make no mistake, this isn't a toy, it's a very lethal weapon. "
What is the term for this? Yellow Journalism ? And this wasn't a recent story either, it dates back six years ago.
It is easy to see you were police. They have been taking weapons in Cal. off guys that had arguments with their wives and inventing reasons due to made up mental issues. They have a task force set up for it. That takes 2 seconds to google. Most militias are infiltrated by informants and I would never join one that has "former" police in itAs there are no reports of GUN CONFISCATION in Cal. or N.Y. anywhere on the news or net, I think this thread is missleading. Maybe this is something that should be checked up on! As this action lead to a revolution. That would probably leed to the same action again! What we need to be looking at is the government making up new classes of prohibited people! That is how the Wiemer Republic was destroyed & let a tyranny come to power! Thanks to Pete we now have a more accurate picture of what is really going on & you can address that instead of argueing over something that's not happened.Happy Holidays to all.
it has been all over the web and the news.As there are no reports of GUN CONFISCATION in Cal. or N.Y. anywhere on the news or net, I think this thread is missleading.
As there are no reports of GUN CONFISCATION in Cal. or N.Y. anywhere on the news or net, I think this thread is missleading.
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As there are no reports of GUN CONFISCATION in Cal. or N.Y. anywhere on the news or net, I think this thread is missleading.
it has been all over the web and the news.
http://www.fresnobee.com/2013/11/16/...ep-fresno.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3117238.html
And they are confiscating firearms in Illinois
"Illinois: Cook County's Gun Confiscation Squad"
http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/i.../t-724830.html
They also confiscated guns during Katrina
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critici...ilian_firearms
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Originally Posted by krupparms
As there are no reports of GUN CONFISCATION in Cal. or N.Y. anywhere on the news or net, I think this thread is missleading.
If so, it's either because it isn't being reported or it's because the people with the targeted firearms are successfully hiding them.
Try going somewhere with a semi auto rifle with a magazine in NYC and see if they confiscate it and throw your butt in jail.
Heck, just do what I did yesterday here...put a pistol on OWB, open, and go shopping. Think it'll be confiscated in NYC? I think so.
These two sets of ideas have little or nothing to do with the original subject line.
As to carrying a rifle in public or wearing a gun OWB in NYC....of course it would be confiscated....you'd be breaking the law. Maybe we don't like the law but until it gets changed, we operate under its rule. In any case, those examples also have little or nothing to do with the OP line.
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I am not a lawyer, I just study the history of gun control laws.
And you know that......how? If it isn't being reported, where did you get your info? Are those people in NY hiding their guns and then calling you and telling you?If so, it's either because it isn't being reported or it's because the people with the targeted firearms are successfully hiding them.
Originally Posted by krupparms
As there are no reports of GUN CONFISCATION in Cal. or N.Y. anywhere on the news or net, I think this thread is missleading.
That may well be....if so, then in six months the subject line for this thread in December of 2013 will be more accurate and not misleading.Really? Just because they aren't knocking on doors today?
Think about it, this is New York.
I can envision that in 6 months, they send registered letters to the "illegal" gun owners stating that their records show that they did not turn their "illegal guns" in.
"The media" - quite a generality.....as written, the term encompasses ALL media, every bit and facet.the media needs to be replaced as well. The media actually came out against black powder guns. The media called it a "loophole".
I would guess with your logic you are ex police and have nothing to worry about with your gunsThat may well be....if so, then in six months the subject line for this thread in December of 2013 will be more accurate and not misleading.
The thrust of the subject was that confiscations are happening NOW. They are not.
That is not semantics ; it is fact.
Y'know....I just want people to post facts, accurate info....I am always amazed that a group of fellows who can cite about every fact concerning the function of any number of firearms and detailed data about a gazillion different loads used in those guns....can't get some facts straight about subjects like this thread.
I live in NYC....I own guns. I am directly affected by the craziness that passes for administrative law.......that is trouble enough. I don't want to read info on these fora that is misleading. Inaccuracy does no service to anyone.
And there is this:
"The media" - quite a generality.....as written, the term encompasses ALL media, every bit and facet.
Is that what was really meant? (And don't say "you know what he means." No, I only know what he wrote.) Plus....that bit about replacing the media. Uh huh. That is what Lenin and Stalin did....controll the press so it says what you want it to say. No disagreements.
Do you really think that we would be equable and fair if we were n control....because we are the good guys?
Pete
In this day and age, that belief is not just restricted to the city of New York.In NYC, a ruger 10/22 is like an m60 machinegun in some peoples eyes, thats how pathetic it is,believe it or not...