jester5167
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Recap on things I have learned.
Be careful what is purchased online, even if the police arent keeping track of things it is very possible that there are people watching the sites and being "good citizens"
I am not worried that my rights were violated, mostly because I am relieved it was nothing serious. In fact I am kind of glad they check on things like this. I know a lot of people here will disagree with that however.
I need to be much more careful in asking for names and writing them down, it would of made tracing the whole event a lot easier when I called to verify.
The local police let me down in showing up and keeping an eye on things.
The state police did a great job and even called me around 11am to see if anyone showed up, it was a very nice SGT.
I should of had a lawyer present.
I asked for feedback on the incident and I got it. Granted a lot of it was more paranoid (sorry) then I typically am, but I rather get all the feedback I can then make my own choices. Yes the members here as someone else said got me a lot more worried then I would of been without it.
I am still not sure exactly what purchases they were concerned with or if that was the entire reason for the visit. They never did clear up exactly what task force they were working with but I assume its some sort of homeland security deal.
They did not really seemed concerned with my firearm possession and the state cop merely noted that I had some long guns and asked if I keep them in my house (which I do), they did not seem to care about my handguns at all.
I was as vague as I could be with my answer which I think worked out pretty well I would of preferred to have a lawyer there but I also think that would raise some eyebrows from the LEO. I really had nothing to hide.
Things would of been much much easier on me if the officer who originally called me could of just told me what it was in regards to. I really dont think it would of changed much. I guess I could of prepared some answers but it wasnt like they had a warrant or even asked to see anything inside my house.
The two gentlemen were very nice and respectful, but I did not expect much else from LEO, I have heard some bad stories but I have never run into a down right nasty cop or anything like that.
I do appreciate all the advice on not being home and things of that nature but I wasnt at that point of concerned. I know it wouldnt of been a bad idea to play it as safe as possible but I also wanted to keep my head about things. Plus if i was going to get arrested I dont see much of a point in dragging it out.
They were men of their words and showed up a few minutes past 10am. The first time they drove by my house (I dont have a number on it) and circled back around, I live on a dead ended road. They did sit in the car for about 2 minutes before getting out. The FBI agent was driving.
They came and knocked on the door and very loudly at that, even with a working and easily seen doorbell button.
When I asked for ID from the man at my door (State trooper) the FBI agent a few feet back and to his right also took out his ID card without me asking him to, I found that to be very respectful.
I told them I wanted to talk about it on my patio on the otherside of my house and there was some shade there, it was a hot day for new england. They didnt seem to object to this idea at all. He didnt attempt to step into my house when I opened the door. They didnt ask to come inside at all.
When they asked me to produce some credentials for my pistol permit and BEA (in my state you need a pistol permit to purchase/own a handgun) I told him I was carrying a firearm on my wallet side and I was going to take out my wallet. He didnt seem to be on edge or concerned about it at all. I presented him with my BEA and Pistol card and asked if he wanted to see my military ID as well. He said sure. He took them and wrote down the numbers or some other info (I couldnt see what he was writing)
The state trooper had a cheap little notebook, not a full sized one but one of those half paper sized ones with a cardboard cover. He took a lot of notes during our conversation. Neither officer had any kind of file or paperwork on them besides the one notebook. It doesnt appear like he had much if any information on me written down in the book.
The state trooper started the conversation and then kind of lead me. He asked mostly followup questions. It kind of seemed like he was trying to trick me into saying something but also seemed very on my side at the same time. They apologized a few times for taking time out of my day and kept assuring me it was routine.
When they left I walked them off my property and on the way out the FBI agent asked me how bail enforcement worked, I kept it very vague and replied to his questions mostly with "yea kinda like that" or "something along those lines". I was surprised at his lack of knowledge on the bail bond industry. The state trooper didnt seem to be much interested in it at this point.
They seemed concerned that even if I wasnt part of a anti-american group I may know of some. I told them in Connecticut I hadnt even heard of one existing and I didnt think we had the climate for it up here. I said when I lived in the south I had heard of local militias but was unsure of their intentions. They asked me the names and I said I had no idea it was just rumors and things I had heard. They didnt seem too interested, I got the feeling the cared more about Connecticut even though they said it was a federal task force.
The car looked Mercedes, however I am by no means a car expert
Im sorry some of you want to call BS on this, its your right. A couple of points on that though. Some other people here have said that similar things have happened to them in the past. If i was going to make up a story im sure I could of come up with something a little more interesting, especially the ending. I dont think its very high road but again thats just me.
Thanks to everyone who gave advice even if some of it was a little paranoid it was good to have some place to go and ask about things. If you are interested I took a quick snap through a curtain of the car when they pulled up. Its not a very good shot, I planned on getting some more pictures but I didnt want to be pulling back curtains and pointing dark objects at them, seemed like a good idea before they came, very bad idea during the visit.
Be careful what is purchased online, even if the police arent keeping track of things it is very possible that there are people watching the sites and being "good citizens"
I am not worried that my rights were violated, mostly because I am relieved it was nothing serious. In fact I am kind of glad they check on things like this. I know a lot of people here will disagree with that however.
I need to be much more careful in asking for names and writing them down, it would of made tracing the whole event a lot easier when I called to verify.
The local police let me down in showing up and keeping an eye on things.
The state police did a great job and even called me around 11am to see if anyone showed up, it was a very nice SGT.
I should of had a lawyer present.
I asked for feedback on the incident and I got it. Granted a lot of it was more paranoid (sorry) then I typically am, but I rather get all the feedback I can then make my own choices. Yes the members here as someone else said got me a lot more worried then I would of been without it.
I am still not sure exactly what purchases they were concerned with or if that was the entire reason for the visit. They never did clear up exactly what task force they were working with but I assume its some sort of homeland security deal.
They did not really seemed concerned with my firearm possession and the state cop merely noted that I had some long guns and asked if I keep them in my house (which I do), they did not seem to care about my handguns at all.
I was as vague as I could be with my answer which I think worked out pretty well I would of preferred to have a lawyer there but I also think that would raise some eyebrows from the LEO. I really had nothing to hide.
Things would of been much much easier on me if the officer who originally called me could of just told me what it was in regards to. I really dont think it would of changed much. I guess I could of prepared some answers but it wasnt like they had a warrant or even asked to see anything inside my house.
The two gentlemen were very nice and respectful, but I did not expect much else from LEO, I have heard some bad stories but I have never run into a down right nasty cop or anything like that.
I do appreciate all the advice on not being home and things of that nature but I wasnt at that point of concerned. I know it wouldnt of been a bad idea to play it as safe as possible but I also wanted to keep my head about things. Plus if i was going to get arrested I dont see much of a point in dragging it out.
They were men of their words and showed up a few minutes past 10am. The first time they drove by my house (I dont have a number on it) and circled back around, I live on a dead ended road. They did sit in the car for about 2 minutes before getting out. The FBI agent was driving.
They came and knocked on the door and very loudly at that, even with a working and easily seen doorbell button.
When I asked for ID from the man at my door (State trooper) the FBI agent a few feet back and to his right also took out his ID card without me asking him to, I found that to be very respectful.
I told them I wanted to talk about it on my patio on the otherside of my house and there was some shade there, it was a hot day for new england. They didnt seem to object to this idea at all. He didnt attempt to step into my house when I opened the door. They didnt ask to come inside at all.
When they asked me to produce some credentials for my pistol permit and BEA (in my state you need a pistol permit to purchase/own a handgun) I told him I was carrying a firearm on my wallet side and I was going to take out my wallet. He didnt seem to be on edge or concerned about it at all. I presented him with my BEA and Pistol card and asked if he wanted to see my military ID as well. He said sure. He took them and wrote down the numbers or some other info (I couldnt see what he was writing)
The state trooper had a cheap little notebook, not a full sized one but one of those half paper sized ones with a cardboard cover. He took a lot of notes during our conversation. Neither officer had any kind of file or paperwork on them besides the one notebook. It doesnt appear like he had much if any information on me written down in the book.
The state trooper started the conversation and then kind of lead me. He asked mostly followup questions. It kind of seemed like he was trying to trick me into saying something but also seemed very on my side at the same time. They apologized a few times for taking time out of my day and kept assuring me it was routine.
When they left I walked them off my property and on the way out the FBI agent asked me how bail enforcement worked, I kept it very vague and replied to his questions mostly with "yea kinda like that" or "something along those lines". I was surprised at his lack of knowledge on the bail bond industry. The state trooper didnt seem to be much interested in it at this point.
They seemed concerned that even if I wasnt part of a anti-american group I may know of some. I told them in Connecticut I hadnt even heard of one existing and I didnt think we had the climate for it up here. I said when I lived in the south I had heard of local militias but was unsure of their intentions. They asked me the names and I said I had no idea it was just rumors and things I had heard. They didnt seem too interested, I got the feeling the cared more about Connecticut even though they said it was a federal task force.
The car looked Mercedes, however I am by no means a car expert
Im sorry some of you want to call BS on this, its your right. A couple of points on that though. Some other people here have said that similar things have happened to them in the past. If i was going to make up a story im sure I could of come up with something a little more interesting, especially the ending. I dont think its very high road but again thats just me.
Thanks to everyone who gave advice even if some of it was a little paranoid it was good to have some place to go and ask about things. If you are interested I took a quick snap through a curtain of the car when they pulled up. Its not a very good shot, I planned on getting some more pictures but I didnt want to be pulling back curtains and pointing dark objects at them, seemed like a good idea before they came, very bad idea during the visit.
