Off Duty cop goes on a rampage...

[Stretchman]

Another shooting earlier this year in Wis...

Right to carry? Just asking...

 

[Rem700SD]

from foxnews.com

The rifle used in the shootings is the type used by the sheriff's department, but investigators had not confirmed that the rifle he used came from law enforcement.

I'm just curious if any of the media uses the term assault rifle in conjunction with this story.

 

[TexasRifleman]

From a Milwaukee paper article posted this afternoon:

Peterson showed up at Kegley's home a few miles north of Crandon at about 7:30 a.m. Sunday and told his wife and their son - Peterson's friend since childhood - what happened.

The family quietly called 911.

The Kegleys coaxed Peterson, a Forest County sheriff's deputy and part-time Crandon police officer, into handing over his work-issued assault rifle - the weapon he said he had used in the slayings - and tried to calmly talk him into turning himself in.

 

[Erebus]

the anti's usually say that the police should be the only ones with guns....
now are they going to say that nobody should have guns?

Hopefully they'll wake up and smell the coffee (however unlikely).

Unfortunately I think you misunderstand their motivations. They already know that disarming people makes them less safe. They also know it makes people controllable and that's what their disarmament plan is really about. It's ultimately about the government wresting control of a "government of the people, for the people, by the people" from the people and giving it to the government. Armed resistance is the last bastion of freedom any man anywhere on the planet has. Take that away and he is no longer a free man in any sense. Once you can't fight for yourself you are subjugated to the will of those that remain armed. Rights become mere privileges to be granted or revoked at the will of the armed.

I think someone on this board has this as a sig: Those that pound their swords to plowshares will plow for those that didn't.

The source of the rampage wasn't in his hands, it was in his head.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[foob]

Am I a bad person for being glad it's a work-issued AR15?

 

[Harley Quinn]

Matters of the heart, to young to be a cop, using an issued rifle, calling him names and rebuking. Won't happen in that group again.

Sounds like it is going to be one heck-of a best seller, and movie

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071009/ap_on_re_us/wisconsin_shooting

 

[Flak_Jakett]

Quote:
but I guess a few can make it through the cracks.

The thing is, spot checks are just that. I could legally buy a gun today, and go out and massacre a playground full of kids tomorrow. Same deal with cops - passing the psych eval only means that they're nice, normal people, not that they can't be subject to the same impulses, emotions and passions that everyone else is susceptible to.

As I stated cops are human too. And as I stated psych evals aren't fool proof. I am not sure if you are agreeing with my post are arguing with it. Maybe you are argumentatively agreeing. ?

That said, I feel that the way the media paints the people who pull things like this as mentally unstable is the wrong way to look at it.

Are you saying he wasn't mentally unstable? How should we look at it? That his actions were those of a stable and reasonable fellow?

So why did it happen? He made a decision - one that made sense to him,

Another words in his unstable mental condition mudrering teenagers made sense.

What I'm getting at is that this isn't some pre-existing condition that so happened to finally manifest itself, but a human being simply following the impulse of the moment.

The vast majority of killings in this manner are perpetrated by people who had an underlying undiagnosed mental disorder.

You make it sound like it was no big deal... that he was just doing what a normal simple human being would have done.

I just find it strange that this sort of thing is accepted and blown off as "oh, he was mentally unstable."

Saying he was mentally unstable is stating fact. It is not blowing it off and it is most deffinately accepting the fact that this horrible event happened.

 

[marley]

Has anyone heard if it was a select fire weapon? Patrick

 

[yesit'sloaded]

If 6 people were killed with only 30 rounds fired I would think not. Unless he had a lot of training.

 

[TexasRifleman]

Has anyone heard if it was a select fire weapon?

I think you'd have seen Ms Pelosi have an orgasm on camera by now if that were the case.

(I am gonna go gouge my eyes out now just for thinking of such a thing)

 

[gunsmith]

Mr white, yes actually

I can't understand it,Especially the cute little 14 year old girl they just showed on TV.




No especiallys about it. Just because someone isn't young and pretty doesn't make their lives have any less value. Would it have been any less a tragedy if the house was full of overweight old men? Would you want to be the one to tell that to their wives, children and friends? Its a terrible tragedy for the families and friends of all SEVEN people who were killed. Even Peterson's family deserves our prayers now.

Actually Mr White, as an overweight guy who is considered old by every cute young gal I talk to...yup!
Last night I rescued a cute twenty something gal that I found stumbling around blind drunk and ripe for victimization (I got her home safely)
When I see 20, 30, 40 or 50 yr old guys wandering around blind drunk I reach for disinfectant spray or pepper spray

Would you want to be the one to tell that to their wives, children and friends?

HECK NO!

Its a terrible tragedy for the families and friends of all SEVEN people who were killed. Even Peterson's family deserves our prayers now.

I agree with you there, my own personal predjudice is for cute gals and kids though....you know...women and children first.
God probably felt that everyone on the Titanic was equally important, but I am not God, I would have been one of those guys on the deck who let the women and children get in the life boat in front of me......just the way I was raised I guess.

 

[another okie]

I noticed CNN called it a "police style rifle." I guess if I had it, it would magically change into an assault rifle.

 

[RioShooter]

Quite a bit of evidence supporting facts that 25 is a correct age to be a LEO, earlier age is not good for the person or the public.

Most cities, including Chicago and New York City, have a mininum age requirement of 21 years.

 

[Harley Quinn]

I notice this has had some deleted, maybe it helped maybe it did not.

Any more information found out about it? But then the way this thread has been reworked it is not going to be any closer to the truth than the media reporting

 

[ilbob]

I notice this has had some deleted, maybe it helped maybe it did not.

Any more information found out about it? But then the way this thread has been reworked it is not going to be any closer to the truth than the media reporting

The owner of this forum has the right to publish what he sees fit just as the NY Times does. It is natural for the owner of such venues to be selective in what he chooses to publish.

 

[Harley Quinn]

Yes that is true.

I was seeking some information and was surprised at the amount of deletions regarding the news that was printed. I searched other locations (google etc) not much more has been mentioned.

 

[Aguila Blanca]

I was seeking some information and was surprised at the amount of deletions regarding the news that was printed. I searched other locations (google etc) not much more has been mentioned.

Am I correct in interpreting your statement as meaning that you believe the deleted posts contained news, or factual information? This site doesn't usually delete such. It is much more likely that the deleted posts were gratuitous cop-bashing or similar comments that added nothing to the discussion.

 

[Officers'Wife]

OK,

In the end people are people, sometimes they get upset and do foolish things and more rarely some will do deadly things.

Since I haven't been around that police station I cannot say much as I do not know what was going on. However, if, and mind you I said if, this person's superior noticed his subordinate's behavior changes and decided to "let him work it out on his own" he is just as guilty if not more so of the crime and should be punished accordingly.

Why? Because as protectors of the state that superior has denied his oath and allowed an armed predator on the streets. If the police cheifs and sheriffs are going to insist they need a say on who is buying firearms he should be keeping even closer tabs on his own armed force. And the individuals in that force should be held to the higher standard for the safety of society.

Selena

 

[Harley Quinn]

Am I correct in interpreting your statement as meaning that you believe the deleted posts contained news, or factual information? This site doesn't usually delete such.

Yes I am saying news worthy items are no longer available. Some links are no longer working to news items. That is not unusual, but it seems the topic has fallen off the screen.

I have a printed article from LA Times that mentions the number of times the gunman was shot in the head and mentioning it was suicide. With a 40 cal

I was hoping for some more information that might clarify what actually happend in those many hours after the shooting, and he dying in a field by self inflicted, or not, wounds.

I have to say I believe we have a serious lack of proper news media information from a small town and similar narrow minded folks. I think cover up is huge here.

 

[xax68]

Hello all 1st post

Hmmm he is 20.....how did he get firearms? Do they waive the age, (didnt used to).

 

[ilbob]

Hmmm he is 20.....how did he get firearms? Do they waive the age, (didnt used to).

the law prohibits those under 21 from purchasing handguns, not possessing them.

 

[ilbob]

I have a printed article from LA Times that mentions the number of times the gunman was shot in the head and mentioning it was suicide. With a 40 cal

Who knows what really happened. A few years ago, a guy went nuts not far from here killed someone and ended up in a state park down the road with a hunting rifle.

The official version of his death was suicide by shooting himself in the chest with his own hunting rifle. Pretty good trick.

 

[xax68]

Quote:
Hmmm he is 20.....how did he get firearms? Do they waive the age, (didnt used to).
the law prohibits those under 21 from purchasing handguns, not possessing them.

Nod but to be a police officer and carry a weapon, sorry should have been clearer.