officer accidentally shoots daughter

[ryan in maine]

joab: Hint; Medicine cabinet

yyyep, y'got me there. good point.

the thing was, as another poster pointed out, the path of the bullet made it sound as if she were sitting down. up the leg and into the thigh, I think it was stated in the article. my first impression was that it entered near her knee. traveling "up her leg" b4 it stops sounds like some impressive penetration. wonder what the New Haven PD carry. hopefully more details will come out.

but I've got to agree with Jeff here. I think everyone should have a powerful flashlight in their home that should paint all moving objects b4 shots are fired. Jeff's example was the proper way to handle an unknown person in your home (in general, I'm sure some situations go against the grain when you hear someone smashing your window or door open). this particular officer shot his daughter in the basement bathroom. he clearly didn't identify his target or even make an attempt to. he just shot @ a silhouette, basically.

buuut if more details come out and it happens that she wasn't sitting on the toilet @ the time of the shooting, I will gladly claim my error.

- Ryan

 

[joab]

the thing was, as another poster pointed out, the path of the bullet made it sound as if she were sitting down. up the leg and into the thigh, I think it was stated in the article. my first impression was that it entered near her knee. traveling "up her leg" b4 it stops sounds like some impressive penetration. wonder what the New Haven PD carry. hopefully more details will come out.

That's the point at this time we are pretty much going on speculation.
If you think about it, it is still just speculation that it was an accident.
Stranger father daughter relationships have been recorded

 

[Tim Burke]

The fact that we don't know all the details doesn't mean we don't know anything. Earlier you were suggesting that perhaps the girl's actions led to the shooting. Now you seem to be suggesting that perhaps it wasn't an accident at all. Who is engaging in speculation, here?

You are correct, a couple of paragraphs in the paper are not enough to prove a Rule 4 violation. Maybe the entire story is made up out of whole cloth. However, if there is a daughter who was shot in her own home by her father who thought she was an intruder, then there is enough information to reasonably believe that there was a Rule 4 violation. If the story didn't get at least that much correct, then there really isn't enough information in the story to intelligently discuss it. If they did, then I think that's as much as can be said. And, since that is all that can be said, I'm done. Feel free to imagine whatever scenario you like. Maybe she had a hockey mask on and charged her father with a knife...

 

[joab]

Earlier you were suggesting that perhaps the girl's actions led to the shooting. Now you seem to be suggesting that perhaps it wasn't an accident at all. Who is engaging in speculation, here?

Mostly you
I did not suggest anything I merely posted questions
This is exactly what I was describing to paco earlier
I ask a question you make an inductive leap that I am suggesting something

You are correct, a couple of paragraphs in the paper are not enough to prove a Rule 4 violation

Then why trot it out here

Maybe the entire story is made up out of whole cloth. However, if there is a daughter who was shot in her own home by her father who thought she was an intruder, then there is enough information to reasonably believe that there was a Rule 4 violation.

yes if you want to engage in speculation

If the story didn't get at least that much correct, then there really isn't enough information in the story to intelligently discuss it. If they did, then I think that's as much as can be said. And, since that is all that can be said, I'm done. Feel free to imagine whatever scenario you like. Maybe she had a hockey mask on and charged her father with a knife..

All we know is that a girl was shot by her father in her home, that's it's we know the story that they are telling but in no way do we have any verification.
We certainly have no proof of a rule four violation.
To suggest that we did would require at least a little bit of speculation

News sources have gotten too much wrong too many times for me to blindly trust anything they say.

But you are free to speculate any way you want to also

I guess I should have mention this earlier
You know how some people are rabidly anti cop
I am rabidly anti news media

 

[nate392]

this story was in our newspaper, I believe it was a Glock