officer accidentally shoots daughter

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My prayers go out to you both!

You can never be to careful when handling a gun! You must take all precautions before pulling the trigger, may this be a sad lesson to us all!
God Bless our troops!
 
Glad she survived, for both their sakes

It could have been a whole lot worse!

Not that I'd like to be shot in the leg (wow! I sure don't want to be shot at all!), but it's great that she's injured rather than dead.

They both deserve sympathy, but as many others have pointed out, no slack is deserved on the decision to shoot an unidentified target. There might be *some* situations we could imagine where firing at an unknown target is justified, but this sure doesn't sound like one, by any means.

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I hope she's OK. Maybe she'll have grounds for suing the department for failing to train her Dad?

It's a bad situation all around, and I'm not intending to make light of it, but this sounds like a possible situation that should have been discussed a long time ago.

On the face of things the father was negligant, but this sort of thing is the reason why homes have rules that must be abided by and re-enforced.
 
Poor girl, the Father should of lighted up the "intruder" first.

Our dog just pasted away. Part germen Shepherd, Part Dobe. I loved him dearly but he could not be counted on to protect the house. Great dog in everyway, but brave was not one of them. Beaten as a pup and other bad stuff, picked him up from the pound. He would bark and investigate only if he had humans behind or infront of him. IF he was by him self he peeked around corners as stealthy as he could. And might run away if the intruder scared him.


Now when my mom felt like she was going to pass out (and did) when on the phone with someone. She tryed to disconnect the current call and dial 911 but ended up not disconnecting. The person on the other end heard my mom dial 911(could tell the different keys notes) called 911 and the cops came over. Entered the house. Our dog was by my mom barking and defending. (thou i dont think he was attacking) An officer maced our dog, and put him in another room.

So dogs are good, but cant be counted on.Now you can train them to protect but they make mistakes too.
 
My thoughts go out to them both, this is terrible.

Not a mistake he's likely to make again, and a good reminder for the rest of us.
 
As many times as I snuck back into the house in my teen years I am amazed that I never got popped. I never even got caught, but my parents were half deaf and heavy sleepers. Also we had a large dog that always knew it was me and never got alarmed unless there was some unknown wandering around.

There really is not enough detail there to go on to say good shoot/ bad shoot. Just a lot of unanswered questions. I will say this though, if my old man had his .45 out and was sweeping the basement looking for intruders I would not be hiding in the bathroom. It would be more like me "DAD IT IS ME YOUR SON DO NOT SHOOT ME. I was errr doing laundry... or something"
 
There really is not enough detail there to go on to say good shoot/ bad shoot.
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So, uh, what kind of detail would you need to justify shooting your own daughter in her own house?
It was a bad shoot.
 
So, uh, what kind of detail would you need to justify shooting your own daughter in her own house?
It was a bad shoot.
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It was his house I think, although that detail is not clear either so I see your confusion. What else would I need to know? Tons really. Were any oral commands/ warnings given? Did she run? Could he see? Was she alone? Was she carrying something that looked like a weapon? Did she have a weapon? Truly a long list that could go on quite aways. That is why they send people to investigate instead of letting people vote via the internet on his guilt based upon a couple of hundred words of a third party intial account of the situation.
 
I'm not sure about Conn. laws, but in the more socialist New England states like MA, this shooting would not be justified. Neither was the "intruder" armed, nor the "homeowner" without avenues of escape (thank goodness for the Castle Doctrine).
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More BS spouted off by someone who does not know Mass laws. We have no duty to retreat in home, only in public. Though I am sure the shooting would not be ruled good because he obviously did not make sure of his target before shooting.

Though one should always be sure of their target before pulling the trigger. This guy is a fool to just blast away at an intruder. Most sane people would at least make it be know they are armed.
 
My heartfelt condolences for the Officer and his kid.

That is the reason that anyone in my family(just me and mama at home)
or close friends know damn well to just not walk into my house. My stepdaughter(the one that is allowed here) will knock and announce everytime she comes over.

No second guessing here, 0dark thirty and noises in the basement, I'm not gonna say I'd be challenging anyone either. Not real tactical to give away your position. This might be better in S and T.
 
Maybe she'll have grounds for suing the department for failing to train her Dad?
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Blame can be placed in arbitrary places, but even the greediest ambulance-chasing shyster is not likely to salivate over his prospects in this case.
 
So, uh, what kind of detail would you need to justify shooting your own daughter in her own house?
It was a bad shoot.
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You think this is a full and accurate account of the incident?

How was the daughter dressed? Was her hair puled back and in a ball cap?
Did she have a hooded sweat shirt on, that hid her girlish features?
Was something in her hand that could have been mistaken for a weapon?
Why was an 18 year old sneaking back into the house?
Was she high?
Was she high enough to lash out with that object that could have been mistaken for a weapon?
Did she have a habit of sneaking in?
What was she doing in the bathroom?
If the Duke lacrosse team raped that girl why was there no DNA, weren't they also initially convicted in the court of public opinion?
 
At 18, why did she have to sneak out in the first place?

Overly protective/authoritarian parents are just as destructive as overly permissive parents.

This time, ostensibly, deadly.
 
Joab, You and I don't often agree, but this is one of those rare moments.

Think of him as a regular guy( which all cops are anyways) hearing a bump in the night and I find it impossible to second guess him. Not saying he was right or whatever, but I honestly can say that I am not giving my position away if I hear someone in the house after dark and my wife is accounted for.

Having three attack chihuahuas makes this a moot point in my case though.

!0 ring, just cuz they are 18 don't make em grown up.. His roof his rules.. period. My stepdaughters lasted two weeks, and 1 month, respectively, when they turned 18. One is now going to nursing school, the other is a crackhead. Go figure.
 
Think of him as a regular guy( which all cops are anyways) hearing a bump in the night and I find it impossible to second guess him. Not saying he was right or whatever, but I honestly can say that I am not giving my position away if I hear someone in the house after dark and my wife is accounted for.
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I am not sure why such glee is exhibited when a cop mishandles a firearm. They have no magic spells that make them any more likely to shoot straight then most of us. They have more stress training and one would think that would make them less likely to shoot someone unintentionally, but you have to wonder.

I used to chat regularly with a retired Chicago copper that I worked with when I was in school. The stories he told about some of the firearms incidents involving CPD officers chill me to the bone these days. back then, I thought they were just funny.

"Funniest" story that I recall right this second - CPD Sgt taking dump (or maybe a siesta) in toilet stall. Firecracker thrown into bathroom by unknown prankster. Sgt empties revolver, destroying two toilets.
 
My father was a cop and slept with a pistol by the bed. It was understood by my brother and I that we WOULD NOT come in through a window or back door (sneaking in). You came in through the front door!!! Perhaps there was the same understanding in this house and the girl screwed up big time??? Don't be so quick to judge this guy. If this was more of a "garage/workshop" type basement, then he might have had good reason to think that only an intruder would be in there at 2 or 3 in the morning. Sure, he could have said "who's there???", but then he gives away his position and risks getting shot.
 
Maybe she'll have grounds for suing the department for failing to train her Dad?
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Blame can be placed in arbitrary places, but even the greediest ambulance-chasing shyster is not likely to salivate over his prospects in this case.
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You give greedy ambulance chasers entirely too much credit. I can think of several (those whose photos appear on every bus and bus stop) who would undoubtedly help the youg woman sue her father and his department. Heck, suing family is commonplace these days. Everybody knows it's just free money to spread around. "The insurance company pays for it."
 
Fburgtx said: My father was a cop and slept with a pistol by the bed. It was understood by my brother and I that we WOULD NOT come in through a window or back door (sneaking in). You came in through the front door!!! Perhaps there was the same understanding in this house and the girl screwed up big time??? Don't be so quick to judge this guy. If this was more of a "garage/workshop" type basement, then he might have had good reason to think that only an intruder would be in there at 2 or 3 in the morning. Sure, he could have said "who's there???", but then he gives away his position and risks getting shot.
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My father was a cop as well. Dad also worked a lot of parttime security off-duty. This meant he slept odd hours and mom was home at night alone with us kids sometimes.

The house rule was if we were out late, beyond midnight, we called home first before we came home. This was meant for everyone, Dad included, so something like this didn't happen.

This house rule came into effect after a serial rapist that Dad was investigating found out where we lived and showed up at the house when he thought Dad was at work. Luckily Dad had a day off and the car he drove was in the shop. The guy was caught, by Dad, that day but no further chances taken afterward.
 
Hey, if some of y'all want to think it might be acceptable to shoot your family members if the situation is confusing, that's fine with me, since I'm not related to any of you.
I can't think of any scenario in which I could shoot my daughter and describe it as anything other than a bad shoot.
Rule 4- Always be sure of your target.
 
"I'm the only one in this room professional enough to handle...."

I'll stop there, at least to stay on the high road. Just goes to show what most of us knew all along. You fight like you train. And if you only "train" for 30 rounds every six months....



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