Rusty Luck
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Wow, I'm glad CT gun owners are making a stand. I agree with Sam, you can't prosecute everyone and even if you did then everyone is a felon and it no longer matters...
Officials in CT stunned by "civil disobedience"
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larryh1108
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That is my personal goal. I made some "friends" in the pre-vote bill thru congress. I promised them either support or a ticket to private practice, depending how they voted. I plan to make good of my promises.
Good for you larry. Spread the word at your local gun shops, shooting range, facebook, coworkers, Church members, whatever you can do. We can't let people forget come election time what these "representatives" did to us and our future generations.
We've made some great accomplishments as a nation on improving our Rights in the last year, and it's only taken a lot of leg work and play money to do it, which is better than violent revolution.
larryh1108
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I don't understand why so many people (in general) don't vote. They complain about everything under the sun and then sit by and think their vote does not make a difference. In my last 40 years of voting, I'd bet that 20% of the people I talked with actually voted. I was and still am stunned. I'd bet that our own gun community had (past tense I hope) a less than 50% turnout. I could never understand why.
In '08 I lived in the Chicago area. I watched the then Senator Obama go into the inner city and get everyone signed up to vote. These people never voted before and did not know how to register and then vote. They were tutored very well. Turnout was impressive compared to previous elections. He went to the people and got their votes because he knew where to go. Well, we need to get the entire gun community to the voting booth. I think we've been awakened and will show up strong. If we don't vote then we only have to look into the mirror to ask why things are not right. This election it has to be a single issue vote. We have to send a message. Enough is enough. Time to throw out those who don't respect our rights.
In '08 I lived in the Chicago area. I watched the then Senator Obama go into the inner city and get everyone signed up to vote. These people never voted before and did not know how to register and then vote. They were tutored very well. Turnout was impressive compared to previous elections. He went to the people and got their votes because he knew where to go. Well, we need to get the entire gun community to the voting booth. I think we've been awakened and will show up strong. If we don't vote then we only have to look into the mirror to ask why things are not right. This election it has to be a single issue vote. We have to send a message. Enough is enough. Time to throw out those who don't respect our rights.
JohnBiltz
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Perhaps this time they could begin it with and this time we really mean it.
larryh1108
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I doubt they'd "reopen" the registration without prosecuting a few people to show they mean business first. They could expunge the convictions (if it ends that way) if they reopen the registration but right now I doubt anyone would jump at the second chance. Why would they?
Exactly. Reopening the registration just means they would have an opportunity to be embarrassed a second time when only 1,000 of the 50,000-100,000 decide to take advantage of the reopening.
It would be a marvelous opportunity for the community to tell them exactly where they can put that bill (trying to stay high-road on this one!)
I sit among them (and would have to borrow a PMAG). That is a truly great idea.
It would be a marvelous opportunity for the community to tell them exactly where they can put that bill (trying to stay high-road on this one!)
I sit among them (and would have to borrow a PMAG). That is a truly great idea.
Devonai
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I "declared" a couple of mags at the last minute because I needed them for a new work assignment (armed security). The rest of my mags were sent to live with a friend out of state. If you wanna get technical about it, I gifted them to him, but if the law is overturned I'll just hop in the car and bring them back.
Anyway, those two "declared" mags represent a very small percentage of the total.
As far as voting, when I walk into the polling place the average age drops by 15 years.
Anyway, those two "declared" mags represent a very small percentage of the total.
As far as voting, when I walk into the polling place the average age drops by 15 years.
Here's the perfect opportunity- a rally already scheduled at the capitol on April 5th:
http://www.ccdl.us/aboutus/monthly-.../ZDUyMDBhZWY4MGQ1NzU5MGNkOWIzYzQyNTkzZTYyMzA=
Although, 1500 people would make a much larger impression!
Just exactly how do they know where to send those notices anyway? They aren't supposed to have a list of who owns what guns. 4473s were supposed to never be used for making lists of gun owners. That right there is grounds for a lawsuit against the state.
ConstitutionCowboy
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I don't think prosecuting a few "unsavory, likely suspects" will do the trick for the gun grabbers in Connecticut. Connecticut would have to start prosecuting good, law-abiding citizens in droves in order for any 'fear of the government' to take hold in an attempt to 'force' more or most people to register their would-be-tyrant-eradication implements. Even then, if that were to be attempted, I believe the careers of those politicians would likely come to a screeching halt.
I think that the risk of my latter prognostication would outweigh any gain that the politicians would make if they attempted the former. Otherwise, those politicians would be hot on the trail, prosecuting offenders and confiscating their arms; for the disarmament of the electorate is, without a doubt, their goal. As I see it, those gun grabbers simply do not have the backing; don't have a nation-wide popular movement to give them courage; and once they start losing ground as a result of their folly, all they have gained will be lost. Oooo, I like that last part!
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I think that the risk of my latter prognostication would outweigh any gain that the politicians would make if they attempted the former. Otherwise, those politicians would be hot on the trail, prosecuting offenders and confiscating their arms; for the disarmament of the electorate is, without a doubt, their goal. As I see it, those gun grabbers simply do not have the backing; don't have a nation-wide popular movement to give them courage; and once they start losing ground as a result of their folly, all they have gained will be lost. Oooo, I like that last part!
Woody
alsaqr
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A DPS-3-C form is filled out in four copies every time a gun is sold in CT by an FFL. One copy goes to the state police, another to the chief law enforcement officer in the buyers jurisdiction. Every legally sold gun in CT is "registered" when it is bought. Not sure CT has a database on guns and gunowners. But they sure do have lots of forms.
www.ct.gov/despp/lib/despp/slfu/firearms/dps-3-c.pdf
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Back when Denver created an AWB ban/registration like 20 people registered, and half of those brought weapons that were not on the list/exempted.
larryh1108
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Right now I don't see them sending out the blue helmets to confiscate anything. As mentioned, it would be political suicide. Now, if they happen to get a call for DV or a guy gets pulled over for a traffic stop and there is an unregistered evil assault weapon, I'm sure it would be put front and center to the media with the potential penalties prominently mentioned. If they see enough "average Joes" losing their right to own then the state will make it's next move, whatever that is. They will make examples of anyone they can to make their point. They don't need to go door-to-door to show what their intentions are. To them, it's all a game and they will have patience. The law is on their side right now and they know it.
BSA1
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With news reports like the Ohio National Guard training to fight pro-2A supporters, police departments odtaining armored vehicles and massive ammunition purchases by the Federal Government it's no wonder citizens distrust the government.
Snowden is a eye opener for many.
Snowden is a eye opener for many.
robhof
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robhof
"If you like your assault rifle, register it and you can keep it?" How'd that work out for Doctors and health insurance and California and New York gun owners???? Most of mine are straw purchases and will ALWAYS stay under the gestapo radar!!!
"If you like your assault rifle, register it and you can keep it?" How'd that work out for Doctors and health insurance and California and New York gun owners???? Most of mine are straw purchases and will ALWAYS stay under the gestapo radar!!!
I'm not sure people think this will be good for law abiding gun owners. If CT starts prosecuting people it will certainly fire up a portion of gun owners. I doubt it will do much to help your case with the general public. Gun registration is not a hot button issue for the general population or even a good portion of gun owners. All they will see is gun owners that refuse to comply with a reasonable law.
Gun registration is not unconstitutional, states have been doing it for decades. CT gun owners that refuse to register will not win a court case.
Gun registration is not unconstitutional, states have been doing it for decades. CT gun owners that refuse to register will not win a court case.
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Steel Horse Rider
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Article I, Section of the Constitution states that "No state shall...... make an ex post facto law". Why would this registration law that makes a law abiding citizen into a felon for possessing something that was completely legal before the passing of the law? I don't think the courts are clear thinking today (they may not be able to freely think at all with the great amount of unconstitutional garbage that has been given approval in the past that they are supposed to use as case law) but I don't believe requiring registration of a Constitutional right would have flown before 1800.
sappyg
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Do you really think this is about gun laws?..... Really
Sam1911
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More clearly: Can't prosecute someone For HAVING POSSESSED said banned items BACK in April. For still continuing to possess them? Sure.
I'm pointing out the reality of the situation. Gun registration laws have been on the books for decades. They have been challenged in court and upheld. That is how our system works. It doesn't matter what you the individual believe the law says, it is the court that decides. You can refuse to comply with a law that you don't believe is just but be prepared to face the consequences. It this case it is the possibility of a felon conviction that will prevent you for legally owning guns for the rest of your life and will put a stain on your record that will make it difficult to find work.
As to gun registration, it have no problem with it. I also have no problem with universal background checks. Maybe it is because I grew up in a state that has had a handgun registry since 1927. A background check and registration is simply part of buying a gun for me.
As to gun registration, it have no problem with it. I also have no problem with universal background checks. Maybe it is because I grew up in a state that has had a handgun registry since 1927. A background check and registration is simply part of buying a gun for me.
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