Ok, how far up the proverbial creek without a requisite paddle am I?

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Can't he use some mild .40 S&W loads in his 10mm and work up to full-house 10mm loads? White box Win .40sw should be a breeze in your pistol, it's pretty mild in my little G27. Try it, I think you'll like it!
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DO NOT fire .40 S&W out of a 10mm autoloader. That is truly a dumb idea. At best you will have horrible accuracy and prematurely break your extractor. At worst, you will blow your gun up.

Just use light 10mm loads and work your way up.
 
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Mike, your sig line indicates, "Webmaster, Arkansas Rifle & Pistol Association." This indicates to me that you know a bunch of people in the various segments of the shooting community. How about getting hold of someone who shoots a lot of small bore pistols and just explain the situation?

Anyone who goes to the range regularly would probably be very happy to meet you there some time and let you shoot his/her .22 auto pistol, to let you get the basics down. You can shoot a LOT for a ten dollar bill's worth of rimfire. This would allow you to ease into pistol shooting, cheaply and without any sort of trauma.

If you've been reading on this forum very much at all, you'll know that the 10 mm auto is a rather powerful handgun. Even the best and most experienced shooters are subconsciously influenced by this sort of information. If you can learn about proper handgun gripping and trigger squeeze while shooting the smallbore, you may save development of some bad habits. I think this is much better than trying to UNLEARN improper procedure.

In any case, best of luck to you.
Johnny
 
What I like about the .22 conversions instead of another pistol is the same feel. I did put a heavier recoil spring in my Witness. It was beating pretty hard with a stock spring and good handloads. Installed a 22lb wolf. Runs fine and the slide doesn't slam back as hard. Give serious thought to the .22 conversion. These pistols have a very good grip angle.
 
I've also hear all the talk about learning with a .22. I plan on getting a conversion unit for my gun so I can save on the cost of ammo. Shooting is fun, and the cheaper it is for me, then its better. Plus your time at the range will certainly last longer, and if you don't pay by the hour then that is a big plus.

But I learned on a .40s&w, and I can't say that it created any bad habbits, but it took a while to get something resemling a group instead of holes all over the place. :D My first bunch of targets could have been 00 buckshot at about 20 yrds with no choke out of an 18" bbl for all anyone knew. But I had fun and got better, so I don't think I am any worse off.
 
DO NOT fire .40 S&W out of a 10mm autoloader. That is truly a dumb idea.
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That's why it was phrased as a question, O wise one. Or did you miss that aspect in your derogatory haste? I forgot that it was not a revolver he was referring to so you can now add inattentive to dumb. Retarded might be right on the tip of your tongue if you read any of my other posts.
 
Much is in your mind...

...I have found that with focus and the right frame of mind, recoil can be controlled.

Don't let the 10mm give you any crap. You're the boss. Go into the shooting session with that attitude.

Take your time. Be patient, good results will come with practice.

At the same time, expect good results. Each shot, visualize hitting the target EXACTLY where you want it to go.

Do not be discouraged if you don't clean out the X-ring on your first string, or your tenth...

Consider getting some snap caps (dummy rounds) and doing some dry firing ahead of the first live fire session. Watch your hand placement on the piece. Make sure you are comfortable with the slide action...how you insert and remove the mag', decocker+safety controls if applicable. Practice chambering and removing the SNAP CAP. Get a feel for the trigger, your stance, balance, etc.

Give it a thorough cleaning ahead of that first session so you are familiar with the takedown process and its "innerds".

Don't go to the range with your 10mm as a stranger if you can avoid it. Develop some level of familiarity with it if you can.

Breathe, Breathe, Breathe.

Bottom line, try to get familiar with your 10mm, follow the rules of range safety, expect to do well, and you probably will.


Good luck, and stay safe!

CZ52'
 
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That's why it was phrased as a question, O wise one. Or did you miss that aspect in your derogatory haste? I forgot that it was not a revolver he was referring to so you can now add inattentive to dumb. Retarded might be right on the tip of your tongue if you read any of my other posts.
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You are being disingenuous. You advocated doing something that was at best a bad practice, and at worst dangerous. And now you are trying to "spin" it into something else. Quoting you:

Try it, I think you'll like it!
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You gave the guy bad advice and got called on it. Boo hoo. :rolleyes:
 
(Well, anyway.) YAY!!! I BOUGHT IT!

Looking into the .22 conversion is looking like a better idea all the time, and with no need for an FFL or to be 21, absolutely cant be beat. And like everyone said, ammo is quite cheap.

And on top of all of this, I can buy the ammo myself. If I buy a .22lr brick for the purpose of a rifle at the time of purchase and only decide to use 10 for the rifle, well, its not illegal because I intended to use it in a rifle.;)

Gotta love finding the loopholes in law that cant be prosecuted.:cool:
 
You gave the guy bad advice…
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Most definitely. I was wrong. Good advice for a revolver, bad in an auto. I was wrong, dumb, boo hoo? Stretch. I'll work on being more precise. ;) You keep me from getting people injured or blowing their guns up! Deal? :D
 
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I'd get the Witness, and then get the CZ Kadet .22 conversion.

Not only is 10mm pretty strong, thus having considerable kick, it's pretty rare compared to 9mm, .45acp and .40 S&W. (don't be scared of the recoil, it won't hurt you none! ;) )

With the .22 upper, you can shoot LOTS for cheap. The light recoil will help you avoid developing a flinch and let you concentrate on trigger control. Plus you can get the trigger all broken in.

Get in mucho practice with .22 and then throw some 10mm down range.
 
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