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If I was weird enough to want to carry my 1860 and 1851 out in the field, say while muzzleloader rifle hunting, or just bunny busting with the wheel guns...how do I carry reloads? I am looking very hard at the Guns of the West paper cartridge kit for 44, so the's start assuming I have a supply of loaded paper cartridges. What is the best/traditional way to carry both cartridge and cap in the field?
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First be sure your state allows it. Some do not. (For big game hunting. Bunny busting, probably not a problem.) Some allow it in Shotgun zones during the regular hunt, but nowhere during the M/L only hunt. (It usually reads something to the effect of "Must be capable of loading from the muzzle ONLY", which cap & ball revolvers are not.) Most allow a single shot pistol. I carried my Saw-handled Traditions .50 cal percussion single when deer hunting. I just carried my T/C quick reloaders for the rifle, the same load could be shot out of the pistol, though it was stout. It would only have been a coup de gras shot were I ever to have used it.
The fastest reload will be a spare cylinder, particularly with an 1858. But even with a '51 or '60, it's faster to swap them out.
A New York reload is even faster yet.
Traditional way would be the Union gear for the Civil War, pouches for ball/powder flask, and cap pouch on the belt.
 
Original cartridge boxes for revolvers only held six cartridges. You could get a cartridge box for a rifle and take out the dividers and just dump them in. That and a cap box and you're set. Hair curling papers work better than cigarette papers. You can roll cartridges with a wood dowel of the correct size with a slight taper. His cartridges don't hold enough powder for me.
 
In CA ... C&B revolvers are considered and treated as "muzzle loading" firearms for all purposes.

I enjoy pouring powder in the field or at the range but paper carts can be a great asset and under certain wet/windy conditions you'll be glad you learned to make them.

Out ridge running I use an Otter Box. Not PC but it keeps caps & carts dry.

I use paper. The best is RAW brand. Hemp.
 
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Ok, first off Arizona does not care what you shoot bunnies with, Black powder seasons for big game is where they get picky. I use an Altoids box or a empty plastic bullet box to carry paper cartridges in. You can likely find a civil war type leather thing on the internet as well.
 
Go to the fishing section of a sporting store and see what small boxes they have for tackle available that would suit your needs.
 
I'd get a custom made cartrdige box that would hold them. I bet a mint tin (Altoids) with cotton filler would work well and then a leather pouch to hold the tin. Trader Joe's has different size tins so you should go to TJ (and leave some of those brownie cookie coffee ice cream sandwiches for me - last two times I went there they didn't have any).
 
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My possibles bag is a Romanian AK47 magazine pouch with a sling added to it.

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instead of paper cartridges you could get the book on how to make SKIN cartridges.. they work way better and look way cooler too..
 
I am almost afraid to ask what a skin cartridge is - I refuse to graft myself to make ammo, and I don't know any willing donors...
Ephraim, those links are great - I think I will be spending some money with BlockadeRunner as soon as I can.
 
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I carry a cap-n-ball revolver most of the time when hunting, trekking, woods-bumming, exploring. Once in a while I take the Luger, .22 Airlite or Webley out, but mostly it's the charcoal burners.

What you see above works best for me in the field. I carry lubed bullets in the civil-war cap-pouch. It will hold quite a few, especially in .36". Then a small flask (which packs a lot of powder) with the appropriate spout. 24 grains for my 1860 or NMA in Navy caliber, and 15 grains for the 1862. I use 4fg, and that way if I'm packing a flintlock I can also use the pistol flask to prime, and leave my priming horn home.

And then, a straight line capper around my neck. This makes a quick reload without fumbling around with wads or smearing grease over balls. Also enables me to carry a lot of spare ammo, if that's important. My cap-pouch will carry well over 50 .36 caliber bullets, and the flask is probably good for a couple hundred rounds. ? Never have measured how much it holds.

Then I carry a small tin (holds about 18) of paper/combustable cartridges for emergencies in case I need a super-speedy reload. But the flask, lubed bullets in a cap pouch and a capper makes for a fast trouble free field reload. And saves me the trouble of making more combustible cartridges.

I don't think it's "better" than combustible cartridges, but it eliminates the trouble of making them (which can be fun, just like reloading) and my bullets can be well lubed, which I like. I sure saves a lot of fumbling with round balls, as with a bullet there's no need for wads or grease. Just throw that powder charge and ram the bullet down. Cap and she's good to go. And, don't have to dig out your tin of cartridges and open it up, and be careful not to drop the thing and have cartridges all over the ground, or in the snow, just pop the flap on the cap pouch and grab a bullet. You might drop one, but you won't spill the whole mess.

Anyone getting tired of that same picture? :)
 
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You know, I never record my lube recipes, or remember the proportions, but what I'm using now is Allox, bee's wax some mineral oil, or olive oil...or...but really just any kind of good lube that works with BP. Bee's wax and tallow would be fine, something like that. Bee's wax and crisco would work. Lots of guys here with more exact recipes. I will say that a somewhat hard consistency works best for me, but not to hard. Kind of sticky/tacky but not too gooey. ?? ! I want the lube to stay on when in the pouch and not drip or run off.

I like any bullet with a couple of good lube grooves. The LEE 130 grain .375" mold throws a good accurate bullet in my 1862. The "Kaidos" work great. For my .44 the LEE 200 grain mold throws an accurate bullet. For my NMA I'm shooting kind of a custom bullet that was devised by the "Outlaw Kidd" called the "KREAL". It's a very good bullet but I'm not sure where a guy would get any or the mold. Weighs 138 grains and is much like a SWC, but with a bunch of lube grooves.
 
ya just have to check out the book on how to make them,, takes some skill, but they are the cat's meow in BP cartridges.
 
Skin cartridges are similar to paper cartridges, but made with animal intestine. Prep is significantly more involved, but the cartridges are tougher and more waterproof than paper.
 
As for the OP question, I use paper cartridges and carry them in little six round wood and cardboard boxes replicated from the originals. The "possibles" bag I carry with my flintocks gets slightly repurposed - it has a main compartment with a divider, so full boxes go on one side of the divider and empties go on the other. The capping tool fits into an outside pocket and I am good to go.
 
Long-Hunter type Possible bags are nice to keep things off the belt, and more ready-to-hand than in a pack. Easy to throw over the shoulder, and take off when stopping for a rest. Comfortable to wear. I just started using one. I re-purposed an old fringy leather purse of my wife's, from the 1970's Don't tell anyone, as it looks "authentic". No one will know, if you guys don't blab. I've got hawk-feet and bones on it to disguise it further.
 
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