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I'm going on vacation here soon, to the middle of nowhere. Joining me will be my wife's Grandfather who I love very much. HOWEVER, he is a big anti. He was in the Vietnam war, and fought hard for our freedoms, so I get frustrated when he asks why I carry a gun everywhere.

How do you deal with an older anti? One set in their ways?

I'm thinking I wanted to have my 1911, but he'd never believe it was safe. I want to be comfortable and enjoy my time off here. Help?
 
Perhaps in the middle of nowhere he doesn't see the need to carry everywhere. That doesn't make him an anti.
 
Still pack

If I were in your shoes, I would still carry-in discrete mode+unseen by all around, but there for your peace of mind during your travels. There are freedom lovers that have no idea of proper gun rights.:D:p:D
 
hso, I believe you missed the OP's point. I don't think it's just being in the middle of nowhere and carrying that bothers the man, but the fact that he carries at all.
 
Many people that fought became anti-gun, don't sweat it. You want his respect? Respect yourself.
 
You seldom change anyones opinion...why bother, just do what you want and it should be a non-event.
 
HOWEVER, he is a big anti. He was in the Vietnam war, and fought hard for our freedoms, so I get frustrated when he asks why I carry a gun everywhere.
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Based on your phrasing, it sounds like he just wants to discuss "why" you carry everywhere. Sounds like you offer little explanation other than perhaps "I can". I might ask the same question and I'm not anti- at all.

If they are a confirmed anti-gun person, they are entitled to their own beliefs and opinions same as you. That does not mean you can not discuss the basis for their beliefs or he can not challenge the basis of your beliefs. Just because somebody does not see the need to carry a gun "everywhere" does not mean they are anti-gun. I personally do not see the need to carry a gun "everywhere" regardless of the 2nd Amendment or state handgun carry laws.
 
No he fought, and cries every time he's at a ball game and they recognize Veterans. He still won't stand to be recognized in public, and I'm sure he was poorly treated when he came back.

concealed means concealed
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I agree, but when I'm relaxing I like to take my shirt off and I keep it on me always as I have a child.


I'm thinking about telling him it's not an argument, and this may be new for him, but not for my family.
 
People who go through wars sometimes get weird ideas. My own grandfather was in aerial reconnaisance in WWII. After the war, he refused to fly in airplanes. This didn't make any sense, because they weren't shooting at him anymore, but he would drive from Kentucky to Texas on icy roads when he visited us. And he did this in his nineties!
 
I wouldn't call my own grandfather (a Korean War Vet btw) and anti, but he does support a lot of regulation and controls. I don't think it was the war that changed his opinion, but the changes in American society since he was a young man. People really didn't have to contend with the massive drug problem or gang violence back in those days. People try to say it just seemed that way, but I really think the nation used to be a safer place. But he's 82, set in his ways, and for the most part doesn't like the changes he's seen. So I cut him a great deal of slack being my elder and a vet. I only carry when I feel I need it. For instance I live in the middle of nowhere, pop. under a thousand people, and I never feel the need to carry at home.
 
ow do you deal with an older anti? One set in their ways?

I'm thinking I wanted to have my 1911, but he'd never believe it was safe. I want to be comfortable and enjoy my time off here. Help?
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Leaving behind the debate on whether or not he's an anti, I'd deal with it by simply ignoring it.

Conceal your gun, don't talk about it, and avoid the subject if he brings it up.

Problem solved.
 
I guess I take the word CONCEALED to it's fullest meaning. The gun I carry is ALWAYS concealed. And when I say ALWAYS; I mean ALWAYS. My wife NEVER knows if I am carrying a weapon or not. I don't take the gun off of my person openly even in my own house. She, nor the kids, see me Putting the gun on; or taking the gun off. NO ONE ever sees the gun. About 50% of my life, I either CAN'T carry the weapon or I CHOOSE not to carry the weapon. I refuse to live a paranoid life. The vast majority of people don't carry concealed, and they take the risks and live their lives every day. I can't carry at work; I can't carry on school properties; I CHOOSE not to carry while I'm playing soft ball, bowling, etc... I also CHOOSE not to carry at other times. My wife, kids, etc... have no idea WHEN I'm carrying and when I'm NOT carrying. I carry when I WANT to or the risks seem greater.

So, whether you carry every minute you are outside of your house; or you carry only 50% of the time; there is no reason to not keep it concealed. Including the putting on and taking off. If you do this, the subject will never come up. He wouldn't have asked you "Why do you carry" unless YOU either displayed the weapon or YOU brought up the subject. If he brings up the subject, you simply CHANGE the subject.
 
What Texas Rifleman said. He's your wife's grandpa, you love him very much, he is a veteran who has earned respect. Why agitate the problem? Someday he will be gone and you will either have happy memories or lifelong regrets, up to you.
 
I have tons of guns and a CCW for 35 years. I seldom carry. Just where I live no real need IMHO.
 
How about the phrase "Because come hell or high water, I'm not going to let anyone harm your granddaughter. If that means I have to trade my or some scumbag's life for hers, so be it".
 
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Even in the middle of nowhere or a rual community,you have things happen,ie rabid fox in daytime[no 1 carrier in jefferson state].Your choice,me? I'd just carry a smaller gun I was familier with and stay silent.
 
I served in Viet Nam, too (two tours and a bit more) and I saw a lot of men killed. I long ago decided that I don't want that done to me, or to my loved ones. So I carry. All the time.
 
Yo: No he fought, and cries every time he's at a ball game and they recognize Veterans. He still won't stand to be recognized in public, and I'm sure he was poorly treated when he came back.

Tell him "Welcome home".

Parker
 
I agree with not arguing with him. No matter what you say, he's very unlikely to change his mind, and the argument will leave a bad taste in everyone's mouth.

On the other hand, if you're obeying the law with respect to your carrying, and you're not on his property, then that's as much as you need to worry about. If you conceal well he won't even know. And, even if he does find out and doesn't agree with your choice, he doesn't have legal authority over you. And if he wants to push it, you could remind him it's none of his business either.

Like george29 said, if you want respect, respect yourself. I have somewhat similar issues with mine and my wife's family, and while I don't argue with the antis in the family, I legally carry whether or not they like it, too.
 
Yo: No he fought, and cries every time he's at a ball game and they recognize Veterans. He still won't stand to be recognized in public, and I'm sure he was poorly treated when he came back.
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We were all poorly treated -- and that treatment extended to our wives and families.

But the lesson I learned is, if there's shooting, you better be prepared to shoot back.
 
Vern thank you for your service. I pray America one day truly makes amends with real gratitude for what you have done.
 
You know, you guys always say that. I always feel the need to thank you and you always so no thanks needed. :) I'm glad to see a few more organizations now for Veterans coming back today.
 
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