One Gun Man - what's he (she) carry?

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What's your opinion, if reduced to carrying 1 gun, what will it be? Picture backpacking, bear country?, maybe survival mode, weight and size of firearm, weight of ammo.

I'm sure this has been covered in the past, but new weapons have become available. I'll avoid the 'D' word (doomsday). Ya, I know, it depends and varies, but.....

I'll throw out an idea of mine, AR-15 12" barrel, 100 rounds of 61 gr penetrator, .22LR bolt, 500 rounds of 40 gr HV .22

OR, Savage .22LR/.410?

What would YOU carry?

what's that old saying, 'beware the man who has 1 gun'

(cause he sure as heck knows how to use it)
 
What would I carry?

Picture backpacking
For backpacking, I tend to think a handgun is pretty adequate, some sort of DA .357 revolver would be close to ideal. Take your pick there.

bear country
What kind of bears? How long will I be out? Am I in a populated area, or out in the wild alone or with a small group of campers (family, friends, w/e)?

If we're talking about a weekend excursion to a popular state park with a designated camping area that I'll pretty much stay within the boundaries of, I wouldn't take more than the aforementioned .357 revolver and maybe some bear spray. If I'm going to be in the Alaskan wilds for the next couple of months, I'd bring a 12 gauge shotgun with a variety of magnum slugs, #5, and #8. Somewhere in the middle? Split the difference.

maybe survival mode
That's a can of worms, buddy, but I'll play along. You asked what I would carry, so whether we're talking about urban survival or something else, it can't hinder mobility unreasonably. What sort of predators abound? Two-legged? I'll take an AR15, minus any bells and whistles other than an Aimpoint T1. Four-legged? The 12 gauge shotgun from the previous scenario. Both? The shotgun.
 
One gun?

My Marlin model "375" (336) in 375 Winchester; you did say "bear" country!! It weighs in at 6-1/2 lbs w/Williams peep sight and launches a Hornady 220grn JFP @ 2200 fps.
Light enough to carry all day and still packs one helluva wallop!! It can handle moose, elk, black bear, deer and the big hogs within it's range limitations,
and I'm sure a well placed shot with some 250 or 265 grn cast could drop a Grizz, but I'd rather not try it if I didn't have to.
Thankfully that's a decision I don't have to make (one gun... yeeesh!!):neener:
 
This topic gets done millions of times...for good reason!:D These threads are fun! Okay, I'm not sure why you'd ever have just one gun, and there are places I'd never even go with just one gun! Now that that's out of the way...:neener:

There are no bears where I live. The kind of bear would influence my decision! If we're just talking black bears I wouldn't be afraid to simply carry a 9mm, .40 cal or .45 ACP. Generally blacks don't weigh a lot more than a human (although my dad once shot a 400 lb black bear sow). The owner of Buffalo Bore has a lot of bear experience; he says that hurting a black bear is enough to drive it off, but that if he has to kill one a 9mm with solids is enough. If I'm going with a 9mm it will be one of my HKs, either a P30S, USPf9 or VP9. I'll have between three and six mags on me (it would depend on the type and length of trip), 15 rounds per mag. I'll carry 147gr Federal HST in the gun but I'll have at least one mag filled with 147gr ball.

If we're talking Alaska then I'd need to buy another gun! I recently traded my Remington 870 Tactical 12ga in towards an HK USPc I couldn't live without.:eek: I realize that I do need to get anther shottie down the road. For Alaska I'd probably go with a 12ga, probably a Remington 870 of some kind due to familiarity with it. I would have it loaded with Brenneke slugs because they offer better penetration than anything else I've seen. My old 870 had a sidesaddle holding 7 rounds, and I'd probably do that to my next shottie as well. Again, length of the trip and the distance from civilization would partly dictate my ammo load out, but I would like to have at least 50 rounds of ammo. Shotgun shells are bulky and heavy but I'd pack at least 18 slugs, around 15 or so buckshot with the rest being birdshot between 7s and 9's. For survival it would be nice to up your odds of getting geese or small game.

When I camp and hike here I normally carry the same guns I CCW around town. But I'll often carry in my Hill People Gear Kit Bag. It's a chest rig that's fast and easy to draw from and has room for additional stuff. When in the woods I like the USPf9 because that's the one I have outfitted with a light (Inforce APL). Maybe I'm paranoid but it's not at all uncommon for me to carry the USP in my chest rig and a second gun IWB. The 2nd gun might be my P30S, Beretta Nano or Ruger LCR.

If I owned one a sidearm in 10mm or 9x25 Dillon would also rock! Lots of power and good penetration with the right ammo. A .357 Mag would be a great choice except maybe in Big Bear country. Then a .44 Mag would be a better choice. But I have very little confidence in my ability to stop a bear charge with a double action revolver! I'd much rather have the shotgun.

Lastly, in many/most cases a rifle would be much better. It would come down to legality and whether a long gun would draw unwanted attention. I would take a SCAR 17 with a hundred rounds of various 7.62 loadings for virtually any part of the planet not covered with water!:D While not ideal for big bear I would find 20 rounds of .308 to be pretty comforting.
 
.22 WMR adult Cricket rifle. Compact, 3lbs, simple, accurate enough, oh and carry a can of bear spray.
The rifle and 200 rds of ammo are under 5lbs. :D
My friends Grandfather, living in Marinette Co Wisconsin fed his family during the 1930's by taking deer with a .22 rifle, using only a couple of handfuls of shells. He knew game,was patient,and a crack shot.
Light, simple, cheap what's not to like?
 
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Phaedrus

I've carried that old rifle enough where it doesn't even bother me.

The hassle is all the other junk that goes in a bugout bag....

Maybe the P220 in that bag as well, but that would be cheating.

Maybe cheating death....

DG
 
My rifle wouldn't likely be a rifle at all. For the scenario listed above my Mossberg 500ATP would likely get the nod.
Powerful, takes any 12ga ammo you can find, great for defense in close and with the 18"RS barrel is pie-plate accurate at 100 yards with plain old foster slugs.
 
As far as guns to pack with that are as versatile as possible, I suppose I'd either go with the Marlin 1894 .357magnum lever (1-4x scope), or the CZ 527 Carbine (2-7x scope) in 7.62x39. Both have back up irons if the scopes failed. Neither would leave much meat on a squirrel or rabbit, but for such broad criteria -- safety, weight and size (portability), and reliability would come first. If I had to choose this minute, I'd grab the CZ (especially if bear were in the equation).

In other scenarios, if we are not necessarily talking rifles, it would be a SW 686 6" with a 2-8x scope on it. Small enough to conceal, potent enough to drop a deer at a reasonable distance.
 
BSA1 said:
I don't believe in these threads but the Wild West was won and settled with the shotgun.

What?


For survival I'd grab my Ruger 77/357.

For TEOTWAKI, I'd probably grab an AR.
 
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" What would you " questions are the staple of many forums.

Funny thing. They always get a ton of guys hopping on board. :)
 
My little Sako carbine in .243 weighs seven pounds, fully dressed. As a handloader, I can mess around with pistol powder, downloaded for squirrels and rabbits. The usual max loads for deer and black bear. Mid-weight bullets for social purposes.
 
Glock 26.

If I could only OWN one gun that's what it would be.


I'll let other people choose long guns and thus go unarmed 99%-100% of the time they leave their home.

Me? I'll actually be armed.

Now, if THR wants to do a "what is your one gun for SHTF or TEOTWAWKI", that's different, and I might pick a rifle.
 
I would probably have to choose my AR M4 with my Air Force M231 .22 conversion unit along for the ride. The best way to travel in bear country is to make as much noise as possible so they hear you coming and leave the area. No need for a larger caliber and the .223/.22 is adequate for everything else.

Edited to add: I always carry my Shield so that would be with me also.
 
Scout type rifle in 30-06 and (yes I'm cheating) a Glock 26 with a .22 conversion kit.

The only thing I cannot do with this is take down aerial targets and possibly close quarter combat facing armored threats.

HTF kinda stuff? The above 30-06 scout rifle.

Love these kind of threads!
 
Big bore revolver in 6 or 7-1/2 inch DA form. 44 is big enough for me but out west I would go bigger to 454casull or 500sw. Don't see a need for anything beyond that because the round is more than adequate for protection and hunting purposes. Only drawback is weight, both weight of gun and weight of ammo. I still think 100 rds is enough for getting by for an extended period, especially in winter when big game kills won't spoil before being eaten. The trick is to match your worst enemy with the best round without getting too far into overkill. For coyotes or wolverines 357, big kitties, wolves, or black bear 44mag. Southern grizz 454. Alaska or BC grizz 500sw. For bigger kitties in Africa BFR. For elephant, rhino, or hippo...well...that revolving grenade launcher the army has comes to mind as a one-shot stopper.
 
One of my Sourdough Survivor Rifles chambered in 30-06.

Back up iron sights and cleaning gear stored in the butt stock compartment.
Claw extractor.
Controlled feed Ruger M-77MKII All Weather action.
Stainless steel.
Two slings for back-pack type carry while climbing.
Accurate to 600 yards

Here in Alaska you can find 30-06 anywhere and it is the minimum caliber needed for large carnivores.

The photo flash makes it look brighter than it is.


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