So now if I want to stop by the F.O.P. Range after work to do some rifle or shotgun shooting, I have to buy a hunting license just to keep the long gun in my truck? It's been a few years since I've gone hunting, and I don't plan to do so anytime soon. But I'm going to have to pay either $16 (small game license) or $25 (all game license) PER YEAR just to keep a long gun locked up in my vehicle?
One last time Alabamaians.....
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So now if I want to stop by the F.O.P. Range after work to do some rifle or shotgun shooting, I have to buy a hunting license just to keep the long gun in my truck? It's been a few years since I've gone hunting, and I don't plan to do so anytime soon. But I'm going to have to pay either $16 (small game license) or $25 (all game license) PER YEAR just to keep a long gun locked up in my vehicle?
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again, we loose more than we gain.
instead of a move to be more like vermont or arizona or alaska, its a move to become more like california...
why is it so hard to write a law that specifically says no other governing body, or local statute can supercede state law. there is your preemption.
why are you now prohibited from carrying in places you once were not?
why do you now need a permit to carry an unloaded gun which is locked away in the trunk of your car?
instead of a move to be more like vermont or arizona or alaska, its a move to become more like california...
why is it so hard to write a law that specifically says no other governing body, or local statute can supercede state law. there is your preemption.
why are you now prohibited from carrying in places you once were not?
why do you now need a permit to carry an unloaded gun which is locked away in the trunk of your car?
RIsom
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The new law does specifically say no other body can supercede state law.
You currently technically need a permit to carry an unloaded gun in your trunk. You won't under the new law.
There are a couple of new places you can't carry under the new law, granted....I'm with you on that. Note that sporting events are prohibited unless you have a permit.
You currently technically need a permit to carry an unloaded gun in your trunk. You won't under the new law.
There are a couple of new places you can't carry under the new law, granted....I'm with you on that. Note that sporting events are prohibited unless you have a permit.
DeepSouth
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Before you would have had to go back home and get your gun, or risk getting fired.
A lot of you don't seem to understand current law, this bill is an improvement to current law.
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TanklessPro
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I guess this passed today. I got this from the NRA a few minutes ago.
On Monday, the Alabama Legislature adjourned sine die. Gun owners and sportsmen earned a major victory with the passage of an omnibus firearms bill, Senate Bill 286. This NRA-supported bill was signed into law yesterday by Governor Robert Bentley (R) and will take effect on August 1.
The NRA thanks state lawmakers who voted for SB 286, Governor Bentley for signing it into law and all NRA members who contacted their state legislators in support of this reform. Special thanks goes to SB 286’s sponsors, state Senators Scott Beason (R-17) and Roger Bedford (D-6) and state Representative Ed Henry (R-9) for all of their hard work to protect and restore Second Amendment rights of all Alabama residents.
Senate Bill 286 will protect and restore your Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Alabama by reforming the state gun laws in the following ways:
Allows those who possess a valid Alabama pistol permit to keep firearms stored in their vehicle while at work, as well as allowing those who possess a valid Alabama hunting license to store an unloaded rifle or shotgun used in their vehicle while at work.
Allows transportation of a handgun in a vehicle without an Alabama pistol permit as long as the handgun is unloaded, locked in a container and out of reach of the driver or passenger.
Shifts the current “May Issue” concealed carry permit system to a “Shall Issue” permit system and requires that a sheriff must issue or deny the carry permit within thirty days. Should someone be denied a permit, a written denial must be provided and that applicant would have an opportunity to appeal the denial.
A permit to carry a concealed pistol shall be good for one to five years (to be decided by the applicant seeking the carry permit).
Requires sheriffs to use the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) to conduct a background check on concealed pistol permit applicants.
Allows for all other valid state-issued permits to carry a concealed firearm to be recognized in Alabama.
Strengthens Alabama’s firearms preemption statute by reserving for the state legislature complete control over regulation and policy relating to firearms, ammunition and firearm accessories in order to ensure that such regulation is applied uniformly throughout the state.
Extends the current Castle Doctrine to include places of business to ensure the right of self-defense does not end when you enter your business.
The NRA is committed to defending your Second Amendment rights in future legislative sessions and will continue to work with the Alabama Legislature to reform Alabama’s gun laws.
On Monday, the Alabama Legislature adjourned sine die. Gun owners and sportsmen earned a major victory with the passage of an omnibus firearms bill, Senate Bill 286. This NRA-supported bill was signed into law yesterday by Governor Robert Bentley (R) and will take effect on August 1.
The NRA thanks state lawmakers who voted for SB 286, Governor Bentley for signing it into law and all NRA members who contacted their state legislators in support of this reform. Special thanks goes to SB 286’s sponsors, state Senators Scott Beason (R-17) and Roger Bedford (D-6) and state Representative Ed Henry (R-9) for all of their hard work to protect and restore Second Amendment rights of all Alabama residents.
Senate Bill 286 will protect and restore your Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Alabama by reforming the state gun laws in the following ways:
Allows those who possess a valid Alabama pistol permit to keep firearms stored in their vehicle while at work, as well as allowing those who possess a valid Alabama hunting license to store an unloaded rifle or shotgun used in their vehicle while at work.
Allows transportation of a handgun in a vehicle without an Alabama pistol permit as long as the handgun is unloaded, locked in a container and out of reach of the driver or passenger.
Shifts the current “May Issue” concealed carry permit system to a “Shall Issue” permit system and requires that a sheriff must issue or deny the carry permit within thirty days. Should someone be denied a permit, a written denial must be provided and that applicant would have an opportunity to appeal the denial.
A permit to carry a concealed pistol shall be good for one to five years (to be decided by the applicant seeking the carry permit).
Requires sheriffs to use the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) to conduct a background check on concealed pistol permit applicants.
Allows for all other valid state-issued permits to carry a concealed firearm to be recognized in Alabama.
Strengthens Alabama’s firearms preemption statute by reserving for the state legislature complete control over regulation and policy relating to firearms, ammunition and firearm accessories in order to ensure that such regulation is applied uniformly throughout the state.
Extends the current Castle Doctrine to include places of business to ensure the right of self-defense does not end when you enter your business.
The NRA is committed to defending your Second Amendment rights in future legislative sessions and will continue to work with the Alabama Legislature to reform Alabama’s gun laws.
Doc Savage
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Ahhhh it makes sense now, Section 9 repeals the existing preemption, then Section 7 reinstates preemption with additional language to strengthen the preemption. Gotta love how convoluted the process is. Why can't they just spell it out in plain english?
Makes me feel much better after just seeing that it was signed (wonder why that hasn't hit the news as quick as the passage of the bill did?)
because legal language must be very specific, or some idiot will do their best to willfully misinterpret it. see our current problems with people who try to misinterpret and confuse the 2A.
I don't know about the rest of y'all, but I'm super psyched about this bill. The NRA is behind it 100%, and I can now go shooting at the local range before work, and can't be fired for leaving my guns locked safely away in my car while i'm at work. and if somehow I let my pistol permit lapse, which might happen now that it doesn't have to be renewed yearly (an action performed often is often habit forming), I will no longer be in legal limbo if I want to take a pistol to the range and shoot or if I want to take it anywhere else for that matter.
This bill is a win win win. one of the first things the idiots in montgomery have done right in quite a while. I had begun to long for the days when my state was run by an ex used car salesman...
as an aside, some may not like permits, but I'm pretty happy I've got one when occasionally pulled over at night by the cops. First thing they see (or so I understand), is that you have a pistol permit and no warrants for your arrest. I've always been treated very decently since I've had a pistol permit (usually also before hand, but I've noticed a difference). It gives the cops a little piece of mind that I've already been checked out and that they have less to fear from interacting with me. I don't like that we essentially live in a police state, but since we do, I'm glad they don't feel the need to fear me. They behave better too, and I don't feel the need to fear them.
This bill is a win win win. one of the first things the idiots in montgomery have done right in quite a while. I had begun to long for the days when my state was run by an ex used car salesman...
as an aside, some may not like permits, but I'm pretty happy I've got one when occasionally pulled over at night by the cops. First thing they see (or so I understand), is that you have a pistol permit and no warrants for your arrest. I've always been treated very decently since I've had a pistol permit (usually also before hand, but I've noticed a difference). It gives the cops a little piece of mind that I've already been checked out and that they have less to fear from interacting with me. I don't like that we essentially live in a police state, but since we do, I'm glad they don't feel the need to fear me. They behave better too, and I don't feel the need to fear them.
SilentStalker
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So, for those of us that already own permits, will we still get a letter for renewal this year and then it go for 5 years or are we going to be grandfathered in and the current permits last 5 years? Anyone have a clue?
That's what I would like to know. I think if you have a current 1 year permit, it will just run out at the normal time, and then you can choose to renew it for 5 years. I base that guess on this:
But I've renewed early in the past, so maybe that's an option?
TenDriver
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Same here. Mine expires Saturday. Guess I'll find out if anything has changed tomorrow when I go to renew it. Glad I was reading this thread since I forgot about going to renew it.
Mine expires in December so I don't need to worry too much but let me know as you get yours renewed. It will be much preferred to get it for 5 years. That way I will only forget and be late renewing every 5th year instead of every year. Scary feeling to realize I have a gun in my pocket and no valid permit to carry it.
SilentStalker
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^^^Please let me know what you find out. Thanks.
does anyone know the reasoning behind offering options for how long the permit is good? does it cost more for the 5 year permit? I can't see why a person would opt for a shorter term permit unless they were cheaper and said person didn't have the money to pony up for all 5 years.
SilentStalker
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^^^^ If you go the route of the 5 year version then it will be whatever it cost you in your county per year x5. So, if you got yours for $20 like me then it would be $100 for the 5 year version which is why some people may opt to do it yearly. Its easier for most to pay out $20 vs. $100. Thats a nice option to have I reckon. Personally, I will be going for every 5 years.
TenDriver
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I found out nothing. Business as usual for the moment.
erkman
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It goes into effect August 1. I would imagine the 5-year permits could be bought after that.
dakotasouth
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Does it not go into effect 60 days after enactment... meaning July 1st?
jimmyraythomason
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No. August 1st is the date.
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