Oregon Private Party Transfer

[wannabeashooter]

Does anyone know of a website or other medium where Oregonian private citizens can buy, sell or trade with other Oregonian's?

There is a California Website that has a classified section that does the same; however in CA you must conduct all transactions or private party transfer through an FFL. You can see it at www.calguns.net

Oregon does not have that restriction as we are a bit freer here.

If not, this is something that I would like to see if we could get going.

Any comments, interest or inquiries can be directed to me at paulanderson60 AT earthlink DOT net

This adventure could be fun!

Paul Anderson
Tillamook, OR

 

[ArfinGreebly]

Welcome, Paul

Welcome to The High Road.

May I suggest that you alter your posting so that your email address can't be harvested by spam spiders?

For example: paulanderson60 (at) earthlink (dot) net will keep the zombie spam harvesters confused.

Back to the topic at hand: Sorry, I have no info on Oregon.

But welcome anyway.

 

[kd7nqb]

I am an oregon guy and I know that these sites came under attack a while back because some of the Anti's wanted them considered gun shows. I dont know of any off hand. BUT may I ask why do need a private party transfer?

 

[wannabeashooter]

1.) How do I edit my post to take off my email address?
Thanks in advance!

2.) I don't understand the question "...why do need a private party transfer?"

 

[shooter503]

kd7nqb,

We all see the implication you are making. However. private transfers are legal in Oregon and if wannabeashooter thinks he needs a private transfer that is his business. It is up to us, as gunowners, not to enter into a suspect private transfers. Besides, private transfers are cheaper than dealer transfers.

Apparently a private transfer website, in some form, exists EVEN in Ca.

I make the following claim based on what I have read on this website. I think about 50% of the handgun owners on this site would suggest that every firearms owner should possess at least one unrecorded handgun. These people would claim that the unrecorded pistol would be the only one you have left after the great gun grab (based on registrations) takes place.

Wannabeashooter - logon, go to your original post and you will see an "Edit" button at the bottom right of the post. Click on this and you can edit the post.

 

[wannabeashooter]

Thanks for the response!

IMHO, there should not be anything recorded, hell, the bad guys don't have anything recorded nor will they ever.

Why do they need to keep track of any of us anyway?

The Oregon law has it right, it's nobody's business, this country is still free, for the time being.

~Paul

 

[C96]

Well Paul "They" are already keeping pretty close track of "us".

I have had one very close call in a FTF transfer; a coworkers son wanted to buy
a shotgun I had for sale. He couldn't come up with cash on the spot so no deal.

Turns out he was recently let out of prison for drug dealing.

If I want to sell something that I purchased on a 4473, I want it leaving on a 4473 or
know the purchaser extremely well.

If I have something that was purchased wo a 4473 I'm probably not moving it anyways.

I don't want a firearm out there with me being the last one on the paper trail.

allan

 

[shooter503]

I don't want a firearm out there with me being the last one on the paper trail.

Excellent caution. Selling a firearm that is already recorded could definitely bite you. I have never done this so I have no practical experience. However, a valid state drivers licence number and a signature for the transaction, such as receipt for handover, would be the minimum precaution I would think (after all, that is what dealers use for ID).

On the other hand, there is a dealer who proudly told me he only offers 25cents on the dollar to buy non-recorded firearms because, as he tells the seller, he has the expense of "making them legal".

 

[oldfart]

Paul, I don't know if you get the print version of this or not. It may only be circulated in the valley, but the Little Nickle ads sometimes have what you seem to be looking for.http://www.littlenickel.com/search/SubCategories.html?portal=ln&SubCat=D2&Class=D2&-session=NPUserID:F84639F628D3E21853925723518B48D6

 

[kd7nqb]

I was not implying anything illegal at all, infact as I am under 21 (but over 18) it is legal for me to FTF transfer a handgun but not to buy one at an FFL. So there are pleanty of perfectly legal reasons, in addition to lower prices and so on. I am not suspect of FTF I just figured a little more information would help me determine an alternate way to help or reccomendation to make. Sorry for any implications of anything more than that.

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

Is the national stolen firearms database only available to dealers and L.E.? It would be nice to be able to check the serial number on a FTF purchase just to make sure it's not in there. It would suck to buy a carry gun or something and have a LEO run the number on a routine traffic stop (although I totally disagree with it, it does happens on occasion) and confiscate the gun and possibly get you in hot water thinking you stole it.

 

[shooter503]

kd7nqb,
Sorry I took your comment the wrong way.

I do not know the details of the laws in other states but I watch the destruction of valuable collector fireams after "gun buy-backs" and wonder why the owners seem to prefer the $25 gift coupon to a couple of hundred dollars in real money from a dealer or collector. To some extent I think it is because many people feel that their old grandad's double shotgun is somehow illegal and they had better do their best to get rid of it "no questions asked". Even the people who arrange the buy-backs sometimes encourage this thinking by referring to the deal as an "armistice" as though it is some sort of "get out of jail free" card.

Since the Oregonian newspaper stopped accepting classified ads. for handguns there is no way for individuals in Oregon to find a widely accepted way of trading private firearms. Perhaps now Craigslist (anti-gun) is eating the Oregonian's lunch in classified ads. the Oregonian will carry handgun listings again to make money ( fat chance).

 

[noops]

Oregon website

Does anyone know of a website or other medium where Oregonian private citizens can buy, sell or trade with other Oregonian's?

Check the classifieds section here: http://oregonconcealedcarry.com/

 

[MyRoad]

Is the national stolen firearms database only available to dealers and L.E.?

When I lived in CT, my understanding was that if you did a person-to-person sale there, any resident could call the state number and do a background check. I believe that the point of access was on the state level, not the federal level (although they were accessing the federal database), so I'm sure that varies from state to state.

I stopped investigating that when I learned about the whole paper trail thing. I've bought and sold a bunch of guns since moving to Oregon, but I would never do either without using an FFL. Saving a few bucks now could set a person up for a lot of trouble later, and some risks are not even worth considering. IMHO (like buying a stolen gun, selling a gun to a felon, or having a gun used in a crime traced back to me and my not having solid proof that I don't own it).

 

[wannabeashooter]

Good point on the stolen gun and selling to a felon or person otherwise restricted from ownership.

Unfortunately we do need to make sure that we cover our arse so i would consign myself to at least name and license # & maybe a signature, such as a bill of sale to put it in simplified terms, for the record, just in case it was stolen or used in a crime.

I hate to start thinking that I need to put this personal system in place because I start to feel like part of the problem of a nanny government and not part of a FREE society.



What do do

 

[fantacmet]

2.) I don't understand the question "...why do need a private party transfer?"

Easy so there is one less firearm in the defacto NICS Firearm Registry. It's easy enough to keep the private party sales from going to felons, just require your buyers to show a valid CHL. With the exception of a few people I know VERY well, I will only sell to someone who has a valid CHL, or whom has a firearm for trade, in which case I trade mine for theirs.

Rev. Michael

 

[wannabeashooter]

The CHL is a good one, that would work.

Now you mention that the other condition would be the having one to trade for yours. How would you know that wasn't picked up from a field in a crime scene?

Example: a friend of mine gave me a 30-30 for some cash he owed me that he got from a family member that passed away, I trade this gun to you for another that you got the same way.

All is good but I don't have a CHL but I do have a gun to trade, so we make the deal and go on our way and everything is good!

What if my friend lied and he stole it from someone else , we both are in a position that we didn't want.

HMMMMMMMMM???????????

Or do we just settle at each of us signing a no formal bill of sale to cover each of our arses?

I once settled a debt some 20+ years ago by giving someone a pistol and had them sign an informal bill of sale just to cover my arse.

~Paul