Other "compact" 9mm smaller than a Glock 19?

[Elkins45]

I own a Glock 19 and I really appreciate the relatively small butt size for a gun that still holds 15 rounds. But here's the thing: I would really prefer a DA style trigger instead of the Glock trigger for a carry gun. Are there any guns with a DA or DAO trigger that are as compact at the G19?

I have thought about the Sig P250 but the only one I've seen in person had a medium frame and seemed noticeably bulkier than the G19.

Any other "small" guns holding 12-15 rounds I should be looking at?

 

[toivo]

P250 Subcompact?

Here's full, compact, and subcompact, top to bottom:



http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p250-subcompact-nitron.aspx

 

[DP03]

CZ 75 PCR
SCCY CPX2 (if 10+1 is ok)

I own both and would recommend either.

 

[JTQ]

Beretta PX4 Compact http://www.gunnuts.net/2015/08/17/ernest-langdon-and-the-beretta-px4/

 

[C0untZer0]

Every Kahr 9mm is shorter and slimmer than the Glock 19 and has DA trigger.

I'm gonna whip out "The List" from smallest to largest sub compact nines:

Rohrbaugh R9
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 2.9 in
Length: 5.2 in
Height: 3.7 in
Slide Width: .82 in
Width at thickest part of pistol: .95 in
Weight: 13.5 oz, magazine 1.6 oz
Capacity: 6+1 Rounds

Boberg XR9-S - now Bond Bullpup
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.35 in
Length: 5.1 in
Height: 4.2 in
Width: .96 in
Weight: 17.5 oz
Capacity: 7+1 Rounds

Kahr MK9
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.0 in
Length: 5.3 in
Height: 4.0 in
Slide Width: .90 in
Width at slide stop: 1.0 in
Weight: Pistol 22.1 oz, Magazine 1.9 oz
Capacity: 6+1

Kahr PM9 / CM9
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.1 in
Length: 5.42 in
Height: 4.0 in
Slide Width: .90 in
Width at slide stop: 1.0 in
Weight: Pistol 14 oz, Magazine 1.9 oz
Capacity: 6+1

Double Tap Defense Douple Tap
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.0 in
Length: 5.5 in
Height: 3.9 in
Width: 0.665 in
Weight: 15 oz Titanium, 13 0z Aluminum
Capacity: 2

Kimber Solo
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 2.7 in
Length: 5.5 in
Height: 3.9 in
Width: 1.2 in
Weight: 17 oz
Capacity: 6+1 Rounds

SIG SAUER P290
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 2.9 in
Length: 5.5 in
Height: 3.9 in
Width: 0.9 in - 1.1" w/slide catch (roughly the same width as MK9, Kahr lists the width of the slide only)
Weight: 20.5 oz w/magazine
Capacity: 6+1

Diamondback DB9
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.0 in
Length: 5.60 in
Height: 4.0 in
Width: 0.80 in
Weight: 11 oz
Capacity: 6+1 Rounds

Kel Tec PF-11
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.1 in
Length: 5.6 in
Height: 4.3 in
Width: 1.0 in
Weight: 14 oz
Capacity: 10+1 Rounds

Beretta Nano
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.07 in
Length: 5.63 in
Height: 4.17 in
Width: .90 in
Weight: 17.67 oz
Capacity: 6+1

SCCY CPX-2
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.1 in
Length: 5.7 in
Height: 4.0 in (without mag extensions)
Width: 1.0 in
Weight: 15.0 oz
Capacity: 10+1 Rounds

Kel Tec PF-9
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.1 in
Length: 5.87 in
Height: 4.3 in
Width: .88 in
Weight: 12.7 oz
Capacity: 7+1 Rounds

SIG SAUER P938
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.0 in
Length: 5.9 in
Height: 3.9 in (not counting magazine w/extension)
Width: 1.1 in
Weight: 16.0 oz
Capacity: 6+1 Rounds

Ruger LC9
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.12 in
Length: 6.0 in
Height: 4.5 in
Slide Width: .90in
Weight: 17.10 oz
Capacity: 7+1

Remington R-51
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.4 in
Length: 6.0 in
Height: 4.5 in
Width: .96in
Weight: 20.0 oz
Capacity: 7+1

Smith & Wesson Shield
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.1 in
Length: 6.1 in
Height: 4.6 in
Width: .95in
Weight: 19.0 oz
Capacity: 7+1

Taurus 709FS
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.2 in
Length: 6.24 in
Height: 4.52 in (without mag extensions)
Width: 1.04 in
Weight: 19.0 oz
Capacity: 7+1 Rounds

Glock 43
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.39 in
Length: 6.26 in
Height: 4.25 in
Width: 1.02 in
Weight: 17.95 oz
Capacity: 6+1 Round

Glock 26
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.46 in
Length: 6.29 in
Height: 4.17 in
Width: 1.18 in
Weight: 19.75 oz w/o magazine
Capacity: 10+1 Rounds

Walther PPS
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.2 in
Length: 6.3 in
Height: 4.4 in
Width: .90 in
Weight: 20.0 oz
Capacity: 6+1

Springfield Armory XDs
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.3 in
Length: 6.3 in
Height: 4.4 in
Width: .90 in
Weight: 23.0 oz w/empty 7rd magazine
Capacity: 7+1

Bersa BP9CC
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.3 in
Length: 6.35 in
Height: 4.8 in
Width: .94 in
Weight: 21.5 oz
Capacity: 8+1

HK P2000SK
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.26 in
Length: 6.40 in
Height: 4.55 in
Width: 1.37 in
Weight: 24 oz
Capacity: 8+1

 

[Sergei Mosin]

There are lots of DA/SA guns in that size and capacity class - offhand there's the Beretta 92 Compact, the CZ 75 Compact and P-01, the H&K USP Compact and P2000, and the SIG P229. I'm sure there are others but those are all good ones to check out.

 

[CNobbe]

P30 SK. I'd get the LEM trigger variant as the DA trigger is horrid but it's a nice little gun.

 

[Zerodefect]

Kahr k9.

 

[eldon519]

M&P9C. The HK P2000 is similarly sized, maybe a tad bigger. Walther P99c also is an option.

 

[chicharrones]

Since the CZ-75 Compact (14+1) was mentioned, check out these pics (not mine) at another forum.

http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=65743.0

The the CZ-75 P-01 in that thread, the CZ-75 Compact, and the CZ-75 PCR are all sized the same. All are DA/SA pistols. The Compact has a safety lever, while the P-01 and PCR have a decocker with no safety lever. The Compact has a steel frame while the other two have alloy frames.

With thinner G-10 grips from places like VZ grips the grip width almost exactly matches the Glock.

 

[chicharrones]

BTW, I have a DeSantis shoulder holster rig for my Glock 36. That DeSantis is also meant to fit the 19. Interestingly enough, my CZ-75 PCR goes right into the same rig.

 

[Elkins45]

Thanks for the suggestions thus far. I'm going to look into the CZ guns.

Those of you who suggested Kahr and other similar guns missed my point. I already own (and really like) a P9. What I'm looking for is the gun with the smallest butt that normally holds around 15 rounds and doesn't have a Glock-style trigger.

I think if Kahr made a double stack it would be just about perfect--but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

 

[MIL-DOT]

Another option is one of the old 3rd gen S&W's, like the 6906. It's fairly compact, holds 12 rounds in the mag, plus it has the safety/de-cocker which is considerably safer for carrying with a chambered round than a Glock or similar.

 

[armoredman]

CZ 2075 RAMI BD. Shown with optional extended 14 round magazine.



CZ 2075 RAMI BD
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3 in
Length: 6.50 in
Height: 4.7 in
Width: 1.25 in
Weight: 25.44 oz
Capacity: 10+1/14+1

 

[corton93]

Im gonna squash this right now (and probably get flamed in the process ). Save your money, and just go buy yourself a Taurus Millennium Pro G2 and call it good. "But it's a Taurus..." I know, I know. But their QC has gone way up since past years. And, this gun in particular, is a diamond in the rough. Just go look up some reviews.

And this isn't coming from a point of, "Well this is all I could afford so it's what I bought which makes it the best thing ever" point of view. I own Ed Brown's and DW's. I buy guns based on either quality/collect-ability or how much gun am I getting for the money.

I have a G2 in 9mm and 40 because, well, they're so cheap why not?? Over 1K rounds through the 9 and around 3 or 400 in the 40. No malfunction of an kind in the 9, none, at all, period. With the 40, I had 2 failures within the first 50 rounds of ammo where the slide didn't fully return into battery, a slight tap and all was good. No malfunction with the 40 since.

It's a 12+1, Da/Sa, and is one of the most comfortable guns i've held. Honestly, it's about the same size as a Walther PPS. Same capacity as a Glock 26 but way thinner. And again, for the price, why not give one a try? They're selling all day on GunBroker NEW in the $200-250 range.

I promise, you won't be disappointed.

 

[ritepath]

C93 is right....while you'll be embarrassed to be seen with a G2 around your buddies, however.com you won't find a better functioning gun.

I just lay mine beside the P220 and CZ75 so folks don't try and hurt my feelings with advice on buying a real gun.

 

[armoredman]

Hey, if it works for you, that's great, the beauty of true diversity.

 

[Onward Allusion]

Kel Tec P11 is a true DAO that holds 10+1 with the standard mag and 12+1 (also flush) with the optional mag.

 

[Firewire]

Nice list C0unterZer0! Was cool to the see the order in size!

 

[armoredman]

Had a KT P-11 years ago as a BUG. Long trigger pull, but it worked just fine.

 

[AStone]

Ruger LC9s

Suggestion: pay attention to the 's'.

I'll be back latter . I sleep now .. w/ a 9 by my side ...

 

[AStone]

 

[guyfromohio]

Two really good options are the Walther P99c and the HK P30SK (already mentioned).

 

[Winkman822]

A few to have a look at would be the Walther PPX, Sig P229 DAK (these are a little tough to find anymore), HK P2000 LEM. If you want DA/SA, the Walther P99, HK P2000 (DA/SA trigger), or Sig M11-A1. All are similarly sized to the Glock 19 with the Sig being a touch bulkier and certainly heavier being an alloy frame with a stainless Nitron coated slide.

 

[chicharrones]

Im gonna squash this right now (and probably get flamed in the process ). Save your money, and just go buy yourself a Taurus Millennium Pro G2 and call it good.

Does Taurus offer that in a no-safety lever/de-cocker version? If so, I'd consider buying one.