P938 anyone?

[bassjam]

I started with buying the rosewood grips from SIG because I think they are beautiful, but I soon realized that they are not practical.

I ended up buying the SIG Hogue rubber wrap-around grips with the finger grooves as the most comfortable, practical solution. I went with function over beauty I guess.

Here is an image from this morning as I got ready to place it in my IWB holster. Cocked and Locked and ready to go! Not the cleanest, is she??? I try to clean her every time I shoot her, but as you can see, dust and lint collects on the outside from daily carry.

These are the Hogue grips along with the extended mag to give the pinkie grip.

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What was wrong with the rosewood grips? Mine has the G10 grips, and they rub my side like sandpaper in my holster so I was considering rosewood grips.

 

[ROD KLOMP]

What was wrong with the rosewood grips? Mine has the G10 grips, and they rub my side like sandpaper in my holster so I was considering rosewood grips.

The Rosewood and all the G-10 grip are just awesome to look at, but if you want comfort and a good grip , the rubber Hogue grips can not be beat, When I bought mine 5 years ago, I I picked up every one they had in their show case, when I got to the Hogue rubber grips I knew right away these were the ones, and with the 7 round extension magazine the gun fit perfectly in my hand, which helped make this p-938 as all get out..

 

[bassjam]

The Rosewood and all the G-10 grip are just awesome to look at, but if you want comfort and a good grip , the rubber Hogue grips can not be beat, When I bought mine 5 years ago, I I picked up every one they had in their show case, when I got to the Hogue rubber grips I knew right away these were the ones, and with the 7 round extension magazine the gun fit perfectly in my hand, which helped make this p-938 as all get out..

I don't have a problem at all with grip with my G10's. If anything, I think they are a tad too rough which is why I asked about the rosewood's. I actually removed the rubber grips from my j-frames because they were too grippy for pocket carry and put on rosewood and like them a whole lot more.

 

[JN01]

Same here, had to send mine back to Sig for evaluation. It didn’t like the 115 grain. What did you have done to straighten it out, or was it just a break in?

It went back to Sig for an extractor replacement, that helped quite a bit but still had a few problems. I found that the top edge of the ejection port that slides over the top of the barrel seemed a bit sharp, almost like a burr. The top of the barrel hood was getting scratched up pretty good, so I thought perhaps it was creating enough drag on the slide to induce the occasional malfunction. I used fine sandpaper to break that sharp edge on the slide and polish the barrel hood (didn't touch the front edge where it locks into the ejection port). I also used Flitz to hand polish the chamber. Extraction issues went away. I also got the updated MSH/spring but don't believe that had anything to do with my problems.

 

[Doublehelix]

What was wrong with the rosewood grips? Mine has the G10 grips, and they rub my side like sandpaper in my holster so I was considering rosewood grips.

The Rosewood and all the G-10 grip are just awesome to look at, but if you want comfort and a good grip , the rubber Hogue grips can not be beat, When I bought mine 5 years ago, I I picked up every one they had in their show case, when I got to the Hogue rubber grips I knew right away these were the ones, and with the 7 round extension magazine the gun fit perfectly in my hand, which helped make this p-938 as all get out..

I don't have a problem at all with grip with my G10's. If anything, I think they are a tad too rough which is why I asked about the rosewood's. I actually removed the rubber grips from my j-frames because they were too grippy for pocket carry and put on rosewood and like them a whole lot more.

There is nothing "wrong" with the rosewood grips actually, and I think they look pretty sweet. They are plenty rough to get a firm grip, but the Hogue rubber grips fit my hand much better, YMMV obviously. I didn't mean to imply that the rosewood grips were not nice, sorry about that. I love the looks of the rosewood, but I shoot the Hogue grips better.

 

[Doublehelix]

because this gun is single action only, I prefer carrying it in a belt holster, mine is a DeSantis Mini Scabbard and it holds my P938 close in to my body, this gun IMO, is better carried in a belt holster because it is single action, and having it in a pocket IMO, isn't the most safe way to carry it, tooooooo easy to accidentally get the safety off and then you have or might have a problem when removing the gun from your pocket,

Yeah, I agree, although I do carry IWB, I never have felt comfortable with pocket carry, although I do occasionally pocket carry for short periods of time when I have to run into the gas station to get a drink or something. When in my car, I always place my P938 in a Remora holster that is wedged between the passenger seat and the console so it is easy to get to when seat belted into my car. It is hard to get the gun out of the holster when you are locked into your seat belt.

Sometimes, I will take the gun in the Remora holster and pocket carry into the store, especially when in dress clothes when I am not wearing my Stealthgear IWB holster, but I agree with you, I do not like pocket carry. It is really hard to get a quick draw, and it prints pretty heavily in dress slacks. The Remora covers the safeties, so I am not as worried about the safety getting clicked off, but I can see where it would be a problem depending on the holster.

 

[bluzman]

For pocket carry in a holster, the 938 is a fine option in its class. As one of the few SAO options, it has one of the better triggers in its class, which makes it nicer for range use when it's not on duty. The fact it comes standard with tritium night sights is a huge advantage in its class too, and closes a lot of the gap in cost between it and other models. It's a very accurate pistol, but so are most of the pistols in its class - surprisingly so for most folks. Like most Sig models, the P938's are available in a broad spectrum of finish options, which is just icing on the cake.

I will offer my standard, obligatory, recommendation against manual safety carry pistols. In the event of a stress inducing attack, the manual safety is a liability. I prefer to carry a weapon with as few manual manipulations between, "oh ****," and "bang" as possible. The P938 is a fantastic pistol, and I have carried mine quite a bit, but it's a liability. This is the ONLY negative feedback I would offer for the P938 - it's a great example of an SAO pocket 9mm, but I don't recommend ANY manual safety pistol for defensive use.

Proper practice, muscle memory, and grip alleviate the "extra step". I cannot bring a 1911 up to firing position (one or two handed) without disengaging the safety due to my high grip and muscle memory.

Like any gun, practice practice practice.

I do, however agree with you vis a vi slide mounted safeties, as those are far less "natural" to disengage.

JR24 has it exactly right.

I should have been more specific with regard to pocket carry. Although the situation might present itself where I'll pocket carry it the pistol will most likely be in a belt holster 95% of the time. So that's not a huge concern. I will also say that I despise most of the smaller pistols long and heavy DAO trigger pull.....that was a major reason for not wanting to hold on to the RM380. I understand that it is a safety feature but shooting a semi-auto DAO is not an attribute that I can appreciate. I'm so spoiled on good 1911 and target rifle triggers that I've become somewhat of a trigger snob.

I agree.

My Sig P938 is a great little gun, it's more accurate than it has a right to be because of the short barrel, the night sights work well and are spot on, it handles better than a lot of larger guns in this caliber, mine has the Hogue rubber grips which I liked better than the other offerings even though they looked awesome, so yes, the P938 I would recommend to anyone wanting a reliable well built semi auto in 9mm...I use 7 round magazines with the extension, it gives my large hand a good grip, plus one extra round, I carry mine in a DeSantis Mini Scabbard, which holds my gun in close and out of sight, I've owned mine for close to five years now, and won't be giving it up ....,

I've been carrying a P938 Extreme for about three years. Most of the time, I pocket carry in a Desantis Super Fly holster. On those occasions when I carry it OWB, I also find a Desantis Mini Scabbard to be the perfect way to do so.

 

[Varminterror]

JR24 has it exactly right.

"Right" implies there's a binary dichotomy. This isn't the thread for a debate about the logical fallacy behind manual safeties in defensive arms, but frankly, there's too much subjective preference involved for yourself or JR24 to make blanket statements about one method being "right" and the other wrong.

For me, any manual safety is "wrong," regardless of practice volume. There are enough other professionals in the market who back that sentiment, so I don't feel compelled to defend a well defended position beyond that.

 

[anothernewb]

Ill add my +1 to the others. Great little gun. easy to handle. More accurate and easier to shoot than it has any right to be. Conceals nicely, and a wide array of inside and outside holsters for it.

I pocket carry mine.

 

[Old Dog]

For me, any manual safety is "wrong," regardless of practice volume. There are enough other professionals in the market who back that sentiment, so I don't feel compelled to defend a well defended position beyond that.

And there are at least as many "professionals" in the market (likely far more, if we discount the many clueless millenials who've recently entered the market) who support the concept of manual safeties. Essentially, it's all about the training.

 

[Old Dog]

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[Tirod]

I've find my Extreme to be a tad large for pocket carry, and have a bias against the fabric pocket holsters that bulk up carry even more. While there are plenty of discussions about manual safeties for self defense, the one argument I see repeated more often than not is the inability of the user to properly disengage the safety under duress, and it's always mentioned that split seconds in delay could get you killed.

I question that emphasis because it requires being willfully ignorant of your environment and surroundings. Since you had the foresight to carry, then being aware of what is going on should be part and parcel. Not absentmindedly bumbling into danger. Walking into a muzzle is an awareness failure, having a gun with no safety on it won't adequately address the shortcoming.

Carry a gun with or without a safety as you wish, there are plenty of both models on the market, and it's up to you. There are disadvantages to both, they have been debated for quite a few decades. My P938 Extreme comes with one, my Kahr CW380 does not, and the longer I carry either the less pocket carry becomes a practice. Like safeties and triggers, it has both advantages and disadvantages, plenty of other methods are available. None are more right than others despite the insistence of one faction or another.

What is important will be that you did carry when it was needed, and whether you got a hit rather than how it was scored.

 

[bluzman]

And there are at least as many "professionals" in the market (likely far more, if we discount the many clueless millenials who've recently entered the market) who support the concept of manual safeties. Essentially, it's all about the training.

Old Dog has it exactly right.

 

[SC Shooter]

I have a P938 that I carry frequently. As a result, I take it to the range often to stay comfortable with it and its workings. It is very accurate for such a small weapon, has never jammed or misfired, is a fun gun to shoot and is very comfortable to carry. All in all, one of my favorite pistols.

 

[HKGuns]

Mine works great. Nice little pocket pistol.

Picked it up slightly used for $425, so I consider it a really good bargain.

 

[drband]

Just like mine!
The newer grips are darker wood now. I like the wood color on yours!

 

[USBP379]

The SIG 938 and Kimber Micro are pretty much the same gun. Both would be a good choice for deep concealment. They're both crazy small for a 9mm and are smaller than many 380s. That being said they aren't the easiest pistols to shoot due to the size.

https://www.policeone.com/police-pr...1-The-SIG-P938-is-reminiscent-of-the-Star-PD/

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2017/2/20/tested-kimber-s-micro-9-pistols/

Another option might be something like the Springfield EMP or Kimber Ultra.

 

[Damon555]

Thanks for the additional input guys. The gun is on layaway and I'm stocking up on reloading components in anticipation of giving it a good shakedown before it gets trusted as a carry piece.

Do any of you have a preferred bullet type for SD?

 

[Old Dog]

I'm a huge fan of Federal's HST loads (I use the 124 grain +P for work), but since the company developed the 150 grain HST JHP specifically for "Micro" 9mm semi-autos, designed to minimize felt recoil and function reliably in these little pistols while providing consistent penetration, that's what I'm using exclusively in my P-938 (Are the company's claims true? All I know is that this ammo functions reliably and gives good accuracy -- the felt recoil with these little pistols is pretty subjective in my opinion).

At the range, I've gotten good results with Speer's Lawman 124 grain FMJs and my 938 has feed every 124 grain JHP it's been fed ... Also seems to get good accuracy with Hornady's Critical Duty 135 grain "Flexlock", both non and +P, JHPs, which has fed 100% as well.

 

[JR24]

I like HST as well, but my goto is standard pressure 147s. Lucky Gunner tests show solid results even in a small gun.

I loaded a mess of Rainier 147 plated to the same POI at 15 yards or so that work for training.

Then I decided to shoot .45 almost exclusively for ... 9 months now.

But all that 9mm is just waiting for when I get the itch (and a Sig 938 or Kimber Micro 9 is REALLY tempting)

 

[Damon555]

Thanks. I'll be sticking with the 124-147'ish class bullets. I've got a mess of 115 grain bullets loaded up as range ammo but it's just that.....range ammo. The load functions perfectly in my other 9's but isn't the most accurate round. They were loaded mostly for steel plates....which are not an option since my outdoor range has closed down in search of another property.

What bullets do they use in the HST loads? Are they commercially available? I'm a big fan of Speer gold-dots. They are what I use in my 44 special. A cylinder full of those are mean mean mean looking!

 

[JR24]

I don't think I've ever seen HST available as bullets. For hand loads Gold dots should be great!

I also like Hornady XTP for my 10mm, don't expand as well as some options, but they hold together and penetrate nicely

 

[Doublehelix]

I also load HST 147 +P loads for SD for my P938. I handload everything else, but for SD, I only use Factory Federal HST.

 

[Damon555]

The pistol should be in my hands on Wednesday......A spare seven round magazine and some rubber grips await......

 

[JohnKSa]

I do not own a P938 but I have shot one. I found the grip to be short and thin which made it harder to shoot than I would have liked. For my money, I would rather have a slightly longer grip for shootability--the extra round or two of capacity that would provide wouldn't hurt either. An extra half inch of height would make it just about the ideal size for a 9mm CCW.