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Pa CCW?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by cdcmj, Sep 4, 2007.

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  1. cdcmj

    cdcmj Member

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    So is it true now that PA will not honor non-res permits from FL?? I know they did not to long ago, but my research is telling me otherwise. As a student at Pittsburgh, with an MD license and address, it seems that my only option to carry here is a VA non-res permit? Is this correct, and/or my only option?
     
  2. geekWithA.45

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    I haven't looked into it deeply, but my understanding is that the State AG takes the position that non resident permits are OK, but the State Police take the position it's not.

    Since there are lots of state cops and only 1 AG, your chances of becoming the test case are greater than zero.

    PA issues nonresident permits, so obtaining one settles the issue in your favor.
     
  3. Steve in PA

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    The State of Pennsylvania recognizes out of state licenses issued to a person, whether or not the person resides in the state of issuance.

    It doesn't matter what PSP thinks.
     
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    Until you are arrested on vacation by an ill-educated State Police Officer and spend the night in jail. You receive a "sorry" and the expense of hiring a lawyer to sue for wrongful arrest.

    Right or wrong, I don't want to be arrested by any cop for anything.
     
  5. Ghost Walker

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    A Florida non-residence CHL is perfectly legal in Pennsylvania. I know because the county sheriff's office just told me so. If you do get pinched on a bogus beef, remember you can always sue for false arrest. Personally, I don't see the PSP attempting to enforce anything like this. It's just plain wrong; and, the PSP are better informed.

    I've walked past dozens of PSP officers while carrying; some of them noticed; none of them asked me to see my CHL. (NOT because they didn't care; but because they know what to look for; and I don't fit the profile.) ;)

    Forget about internet gossip. Call the Allegheny County Sheriff's Office at: 1-412-350-4700, or 1-412-350-4714; they'll tell you the same thing.
     
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    PA will only give a non-resident permit to a person who first has a permit from their own state if available. Technically, it is available from Maryland, but you can't get one, so you are SOL with a PA non-resident permt.

    But, the PA AG did indeed clarify the issue and declare that FLA non-resident permits are OK.
     
  7. cdcmj

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    thanks guys, especially ghost walker
     
  8. Ghost Walker

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    cdcmj, You're welcome! :)

    Centre County Sheriff, Denny Nau, is well-known to honor requests for non-resident Pennsylvania permits from law-abiding citizens who are NOT licensed to carry in their home state.

    Edited: Wrong! Posted in error - Sorry.
     
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    Hopefully that won't come back to bite him in the arse since he is breaking the law by doing that.
     
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    Actually, Sheriff Nau requires a photo copy of a license to carry a firearm (concealed carry permit) from your home state if that state has a concealed carry law.

    http://www.co.centre.pa.us/sheriff/license_application.asp
     
  11. cdcmj

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    steve in PA, what is breaking the law?
     
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    That's what I have always understood.
     
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    Hey, looks like I got it wrong on Centre County. Sorry, that was my understanding; but, now, I'll take it back. :eek:

    Anyway, this is where I got it from:

    Advice On Moving To PA

    PA CCW

    Like I said, sorry! What can I say? I get this stuff off the internet the same as everyone else; and Steve isn't always there to help me out! :D
     
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    to clarify, I can just get a florida or VA non-res ccw permit, and carry legally in PA correct...ps im in alleghaney county, pittsburgh area
     
  15. Ghost Walker

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    Florida non-resident permit is definitely legal in Pennsylvania - I'm positive of this because my county sheriff told me so.

    (Right now, I have both the Pennsylvania Resident CHL, and Florida Non-Resident CHL. I plan on using only the Florida Non-Res permit once my resident PA permit runs out.)

    I don't know about Virginia; but, here, you can checkout the Handgun Law website for yourself:

    Handgun Law

    Reciprocity Charts

    I apologize if I confused the issue - Wasn't deliberate, believe me.
     
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    Isn't it still illegal to carry on the University's campus? When talking about Pitt that is most of Oakland.

    All of your research might be for not.
     
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    Sorry for this type of reply, but at Pitt, it is lawful, but illegal.

    Any law school students care to step up to the bar?
     
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    And Rosa Parks should have just gone to the back of the bus. Not worth the hassle of being arrested, right?

    I refuse to let an ignorant police officer intimidate me from exercising my rights that are in full compliance with the law. That's how we get our rights taken away, because we let them do it for fear of "causing a hassle" and "wanting to stay under the radar".
     
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    isn't it somewhat like NY too that Philly and Pittsburgh try to limit carrying even though you have a permit?
     
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    PA's AG site says the following:
    This is from: http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/crime.aspx?id=184
     
  21. Ghost Walker

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    :) Then the answer is yes! (For EITHER Florida or Virginia, as well as several other states, too - Provided you can get THAT permit, first.)

    CHL Reciprocity Charts

    Pennsylvania recognizes CHL permits from: AK, CO, FL, GA, ID, KY, LA, MI, NH, MO, MT, NC, ND, OK, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WV, & WY.
     
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    Pittsburgh, in my research, doesnt seem to add any additional restrictions to CCW, like philly does...correct me if im wrong..and Oakland, though close to the campus, is plently separate from any Pitt owned builiding.
     
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    The PSP or Coal & Iron Cops as they were once known are well known for EXTRA LEGAL ANTICS.

    Other than that, in Pittsburgh, there are no "special provisions", as is the case with NYC. I believe that Philadelphia's baloney got knocked down in the courts.
     
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    Do NOT let your home state permit expire!!!

    A lot of states (MI, CO, FL for starters) have retarded rules that state your permit MUST be from the state you live in for it to be effective. So if you drop your resident PA and come here (CO) on a non resident FL permit, your hosed. For what PA costs anyways, I'd keep it.
     
  25. Ghost Walker

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    :) ^^^ Thanks! The PA resident renewal process is a pain. I have to go through requalification almost as if I'm a first timer - Even after 12 years of carrying!

    I specifically asked the Sheriff's deputy-in-charge of CHL's if I can do this; and, he told me he knows of no reason why I cannot. He, also, cautioned me that many of the local police may not be as well-informed about the CHL laws and reciprocity as they should be; and, occasionally, I could get hassled.

    (He is right; of the several local officers I've asked, all of them gave me the wrong answer!) :eek:

    The only problem I'm able to foresee is in states like New Hampshire where they want you to hold a resident permit from your home state; but, I don't go to New Hampshire, anymore; so who cares! :D
     
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