Looking for a pack rifle anyone out there have any expirence with the Henry survival rifle or the the Marlin papose. Grandsonand I are going on a canoe trip in BWCWA thougt it would a good excuse to buy a new packable rifle. Opinions on accuracy and reliability would be greatly appreciated. Gus
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cluttonfred
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I have and like the Marlin Papoose. Great fun for just plinking, reliable with factory magazines, and plenty accurate for for rabbits, squirrels, snakes (with .22 shot shells), etc. It would also be a whole lot better than a pointed stick if you are worried about two-legged predators.
The AR-7 in all its forms gets very mixed reviews, here is a recent thread.
I'm assuming you are looking for a takedown gun and not too expensive...Taurus reproduction Model 62 pump, Stevens Favorite takedown model, H&R Sportster all come to mind at the lower end of the price range, the Marlin and Henry .22 lever actions and the Browning semi-auto with the magazine in the stock at the high end.
There is also a Ruger 10/22 or Marlin 60 with an aftermarket folding stock if that's your style. Of course, there are other options if you want to go to a shotgun or a larger caliber.
Let us know if you get anything and how it works out!
The AR-7 in all its forms gets very mixed reviews, here is a recent thread.
I'm assuming you are looking for a takedown gun and not too expensive...Taurus reproduction Model 62 pump, Stevens Favorite takedown model, H&R Sportster all come to mind at the lower end of the price range, the Marlin and Henry .22 lever actions and the Browning semi-auto with the magazine in the stock at the high end.
There is also a Ruger 10/22 or Marlin 60 with an aftermarket folding stock if that's your style. Of course, there are other options if you want to go to a shotgun or a larger caliber.
Let us know if you get anything and how it works out!
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I'd go with the Marlin Papoose.
The Taurus Model 62 pump or Model 63 semi-auto -would- be okay, except they discontinued the rilfes in .22 magnum. So theres no real reason to take one over a Papoose in my opinion.
And the AR-7 or Henry Survival Rifle is as mentioned... somewhat sketch.
The Taurus Model 62 pump or Model 63 semi-auto -would- be okay, except they discontinued the rilfes in .22 magnum. So theres no real reason to take one over a Papoose in my opinion.
And the AR-7 or Henry Survival Rifle is as mentioned... somewhat sketch.
i don't know anything about them other then what i've read on the net, but i drool when ever i check out these:
http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/su16a.html
http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/su16c.html
even this guy is pretty sweet:
http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/sub2000.html
http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/su16a.html
http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/su16c.html
even this guy is pretty sweet:
http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/sub2000.html
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I have an NEF Survivor with a .45 colt rifle barrel, which will also shoot .410 shotshells with a screw in "choke" that is supposed to unspin the shot load. If you're in a pristine area, you could get some steel shot for .410 so as not to leave lead in the environment. More expensive than a .22 however.
Well this was great here I thought I could buy a new gun and you guys suggest two guns I already have the Marlin 39A and the taurus pump in a carbine. So now I guess I have to look at pistols. What do you gents think of as an inexpensive camp/pack pistol in 22. I am leaning toward the browning buckmark camper in SS. Opinions or better options please! Thanks alot I honestly would not have thought of the Taurus pump. Gus
cluttonfred
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If we are talking about more power, and purely hunting and/or defensive use, a shotgun is also worth considering.
IIRC, the H&R/NEF break-action rifles and shotguns all come apart by just removing the forend screw, opening the action, pulling up the forend and lifting off the barrel. The Survivor models come with a hollow stock and forend to store ammo, and that forend screw is a big knurled one to turn by hand. You can add that forend or stock, or just that kind of screw, to almost any H&R/NEF rifle or shotgun. The H&R Survivor in .45LC/.410 bore would be very versatile, as would the Tamer or cheap Pardner Compact in .410 or 20 gauge.
If it were me, I'd go with the Pardner Compact in .410 because I like straight wood stocks, add a nice leather sling and some sort of ammo storage (cuff on the stock, ammo wallet or bandolier sling) and you have a classy little gun. If predators are an issue, go with 20 gauge and bring a couple of slugs.
IIRC, the H&R/NEF break-action rifles and shotguns all come apart by just removing the forend screw, opening the action, pulling up the forend and lifting off the barrel. The Survivor models come with a hollow stock and forend to store ammo, and that forend screw is a big knurled one to turn by hand. You can add that forend or stock, or just that kind of screw, to almost any H&R/NEF rifle or shotgun. The H&R Survivor in .45LC/.410 bore would be very versatile, as would the Tamer or cheap Pardner Compact in .410 or 20 gauge.
If it were me, I'd go with the Pardner Compact in .410 because I like straight wood stocks, add a nice leather sling and some sort of ammo storage (cuff on the stock, ammo wallet or bandolier sling) and you have a classy little gun. If predators are an issue, go with 20 gauge and bring a couple of slugs.
woof
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I've spent some time with the Henry. For weight and packability it can't be beat. Accuracy was impressive. it's what I'd buy for your purpose.
cluttonfred
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woof, do you mean the Henry version of the AR-7 or the Henry lever action .22?
Furncliff
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The Buckmark is a good choice or if you like to buy used,,, the HiStandards (made in CT. only).
Duramatic 3-400$...
Duramatic 3-400$...
trstafford
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compactest shotgun
How about a Taurus hand held shotgun?
http://www.taurususa.com/products/gunselector-results.cfm?series=41
How about a Taurus hand held shotgun?
http://www.taurususa.com/products/gunselector-results.cfm?series=41
jpwilly
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AK underfolder.
Yip, I'd get a can for it too!
T.R.
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I often carry my Ruger 96 in 44MAG for long hikes in the Bighorn Mts of central Wyoming. One magazine loaded with 300 grain Hornady XTP ammo. Other magazine loaded with 240 grain 44 Special ammo. Despite a huge difference in power, both loads to shoot to same point of aim at 25 yards.
44 Special is sub-sonic with no recoil. Yet it will fling porcupines out of trees with considerable effect.
New price is unreasonable for this plain and unadorned Ruger carbine. But you might find an "as new" carbine for better price.
TR
cluttonfred
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Unfortunately, Ruger seems to have discontinued all of their .44 mag carbines, semi-auto and lever. :-(
Have you considered a Chipmunk or Crickett single shot .22 rifle?
These are youth dimensioned rifles that are really quite excellent little guns and they can be restocked to longer dimensions if need be.
Great pack rifles, my daughter owns a couple and loves them.
I have owned Charter Arms and Henry versions of the AR-7 and no longer do for good reasons, enough said.
The Papoose is a magazine fed takedown version of the Marlin/Glenfield Model 60 rifle.
Some people love these rifles and some hate them.
I receive quite a few Model 60s over a year at the shop for deep cleaning and mostly minor repairs.
The magazine fed versions do not seem to have the problems the tube fed guns do as they rarely come in for anything.
These are youth dimensioned rifles that are really quite excellent little guns and they can be restocked to longer dimensions if need be.
Great pack rifles, my daughter owns a couple and loves them.
I have owned Charter Arms and Henry versions of the AR-7 and no longer do for good reasons, enough said.
The Papoose is a magazine fed takedown version of the Marlin/Glenfield Model 60 rifle.
Some people love these rifles and some hate them.
I receive quite a few Model 60s over a year at the shop for deep cleaning and mostly minor repairs.
The magazine fed versions do not seem to have the problems the tube fed guns do as they rarely come in for anything.
armoredman
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I reccomend, if you can, the KelTec SU-16C, with three loaded mags, and a good sold .357 revolver, first two chambers in snake shot. That should do you almost anywhere, unless this is HUGE bear country, in which case a CZ 550 Ultimate Hunting Rifle in 300 mag, 7.7 pounds, might do you well, http://www.cz-usa.com/product_detail.php?id=76...or a 12 gauge shotgun with slug!
Please check game and fish regulations where you are going, when you are going, make sure there is no hunting season underway that would require you to have a huinting license/restrict what you can carry.
Have fun, wish I could do that.
Please check game and fish regulations where you are going, when you are going, make sure there is no hunting season underway that would require you to have a huinting license/restrict what you can carry.
Have fun, wish I could do that.
waterhouse
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For a take down .22, I like the Browning Semi-auto.
theotherwaldo
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I don't know about the Henry, but I got adequate service out of the old AR-7. Nothing fancy, just an ok pack gun that was better than carrying a pistol.
I will also attest that they float. My second AR-7 came out of the Rogue River of Oregon, just below Rainey Falls. Tried to find the owner, then sold it. You don't need two AR-7s.
I will also attest that they float. My second AR-7 came out of the Rogue River of Oregon, just below Rainey Falls. Tried to find the owner, then sold it. You don't need two AR-7s.
alaskanativeson
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I've had a marlin Papoose and Browning take down. I'd recommend either as a very good gun for this purpose. The various AR7s I've seen vary way too wildly in quality control for me to me comfortable with one.
Does it have to be a rifle? I was thinking about a Thompson Center Contender pistol (I know they offer a rifle but the pistol is much more packable) you could carry two or three barrels in a small space and handle everything from squirrels to grizzlies.
Does it have to be a rifle? I was thinking about a Thompson Center Contender pistol (I know they offer a rifle but the pistol is much more packable) you could carry two or three barrels in a small space and handle everything from squirrels to grizzlies.
Vern Humphrey
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I generally carry my Colt Woodsman, which is getting to be my favorite squirrel gun.
I did some research on developing a buttstock for it, but the cost for a license is just rediculous.
Why on earth would a shoulder stock on a .22 pistol be something the bureaucracy cares about?
I did some research on developing a buttstock for it, but the cost for a license is just rediculous.
Why on earth would a shoulder stock on a .22 pistol be something the bureaucracy cares about?
alaskanativeson
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