Pastor stops potential mass attack - hardly makes the news

[usmarine0352_2005]

For all of those who don't think guns belong in churches or that pastors or church employees be armed.


Since this is a good guy with a gun, it won't be making national news sites. It's good that the pastor had a report already done on the suspects. They haven't decided if he'll be charged or not. Doesn't seem likely.






http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/1...elding-man-in-detroit-cops-say/?intcmp=hplnws

Detroit pastor shoots, kills hammer-wielding church intruder

Published October 19, 2015 FoxNews.com

A pistol-packing pastor shot and killed a man who was allegedly trying to attack him with a brick on Sunday in the vestibule of a Detroit church, police said.

Cops say Deante Smith, 25, attacked the unidentified pastor and threatened several parishioners of The City of God church with a brick and hammer, FOX2 reported. Police said the attack was not random; the pastor and Smith knew each other and the two have had problems in the past.

“The pastor had had issues with the man before,” Dolunt told the Detroit News. “He had been threatening to do him bodily harm. He walked into the service and went after the pastor with a brick. The pastor pulled out his Glock and fired several shots. I think he hit him four or five times, and the man died.”

“The reality is, things can happen anywhere now,” City Councilman Andre Spivey told the Detroit News. “[Church] is a haven of rest and safety…when you cannot be safe in God’s place of worship, where can you be safe?”

 

[Onward Allusion]

I think another article said that the pastor was having an affair with the hammer-wielding guy's wife.

 

[hso]

It isn't likely that this would have been a mass shooting since this was a personal quarrel between the former girlfriend and the criminal. Odds are more likely that it would have ended with the shooting of the girlfriend and the pastor and the BG fleeing.

OTOH, the pastor did shoot to stop the criminal shooting at the woman and him and that's part of why we carry.

 

[usmarine0352_2005]

Update:


From the news the suspect had a brick, not a hammer.



And Foxnews said that there was 74 killings inside of churches related to violence in 2014.

 

[230RN]

And Foxnews said that there was 74 killings inside of churches related to violence in 2014.

Should read:

And Foxnews said that in 2014 there were 74 killings inside of churches.

Sorry, but that threw me for two seconds. Second1: I didn't know there were churches related to violence. Second2: Killings are usually related to violence..

Not being a jerk about it, but that kinda made me grin.

Back to topic.

Terry

 

[Deltaboy1984]

Thank the Good Lord this Pastor hear the word of our Lord who said "He has not a sword go and get one." My paraphrase. Luke 22:36

 

[DM~]

I think another article said that the pastor was having an affair with the hammer-wielding guy's wife.

AND knocked her up!

DM

 

[BigBore44]

230RN,
That's exactly what I was thinking when I read it too. Too funny. Knowing we are all sinners and fallen short of the glory of God, this pastor had an affair with the man's wife and knocked her up? Sounds like the pastor might want to spend a little more time studying the word instead of studying other men's wives.

I'm just not really sure how I feel about this story. I think having people inside churches armed is a great idea. Have for a very long time. But I don't like an adulterous pastor being hailed as a hero for shooting the man who's wife he was impregnating. No hero in my book.

 

[Dan Forrester]

I guess he missed Duteronomy 22:22:

"If a man is found lying with the wife of another man, both of them shel die"

Sounds like the "ordeal of the bitter water" could shed light on this situation.

Dan

 

[DeepSouth]

Apparently the pastor is "in custody"

The pastor was taken into custody for questioning. There are conflicting reports as to whether or not the pastor has actually been arrested.

USA Today reports that investigators are trying to determine whether the pastor had a permit for the gun, while The Christian Science Monitor reports that a central issue is the fact that guns are currently illegal to possess in Michigan churches. But the Monitor does note that Michigan lawmakers met just last week to discuss the possibility of expanding concealed carry to churches, schools, and other gun free zones where law abiding citizens are rendered defenseless at the hands of criminals.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ody-shooting-killing-attacker-church-service/

 

[bearcreek]

At least part of what the Breitbart article said is not accurate or relevant. Concealed carry is legal in Michigan churches as long as the "presiding official" allows it. Also, when USA Today mentioned a "permit" are they talking about the pistol being registered in Michigan? As far as I've been able to determine, there is nothing in MI law that requires a person to have a permit to carry on private property.

 

[hso]

And since a place of business is typically exempted from restriction for the owner/operator the pastor is the operator of that place of business.

The issue here is that this appears to be a romantic quarrel between the three and doesn't qualify for interest as a "good guy with a gun" stopping a "mass shooting".