Patience

Ugly Sauce said:
You know, I'm having enough trouble ignoring Driftwood's .44 Colt...and Straw, you ain't helping much. It's getting to me. I can't stand looking at them things. Then I'm checking out prices on the replicas last night, and they are much lower priced than I thought. If you guys don't stop, I'm moving one up to the top of my want list...which due to my fickle wants is always changing. Is there a button that says: "ignore enablers"??? Good grief.

So Straw Hat, are those two pistols .38's? I see they don't have the rebated frame or cylinder. Grips "look" more "Navy" but can't really tell from a pic. I assume they are in .38. ? Dang. I wish I could ignore myself sometimes. :cuss:
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My revolvers are the ASM version of the Richards conversion of the Colt 1860 revolver. The Richards conversion was only done on 1860s and only in 44 Colt. ASM took some creative steps to produce a good but not great copy. Notice the conversion ring on the original of DJ’s revolver covers the rear of the cylinder? On the replica is does not. The ejector on the replica sits a very little bit higher than on the original. And the replica is chambered for the modern 44 Colt that utilizes the internally lubed 43 caliber bullet rather than the heel based 45 caliber bullet of the original. The case is the same but the bullets are different.

Colt’s did the same thing with the 41 Colt and the 38 Colt. Not sure if they ever modernized the 32 Colt but I suspect so.

I load these cases with a 200 grain RNFP cast knead bullet and as much black powder as fits under the bullet. Makes for fun shooting.

No company is currently making nor marketing a Richards conversion. There are several Richards/Mason revolvers and some Richards Type II but as of today, no Richards conversion revolvers are available new. Used, the choice is not much better. ASM made them and not very many. I believe ASM made them in both 44 and 38 Colt but I am not positive.

Good luck!

Kevin
 
StrawHat said:
And the replica is chambered for the modern 44 Colt that utilizes the internally lubed 43 caliber bullet rather than the heel based 45 caliber bullet of the original. The case is the same but the bullets are different.
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I think ".44 Russian Short" would fit better than "Modern .44 Colt". But that's just me.

Those are a nice looking pair of pistols.
 
Heir Kommt Die Sonne said:
What do you mean by this exactly?
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(I am semi knowledgeable in Richards, but can recognize a little in the other conversions.)

The Richards patent, that included the spring loaded firing pin in the conversion plate, the flattened hammer face, the rear sight on the conversion plate, the ejector assembly that replaced the rammer under the barrel, and probably some other things I am forgetting, was only used on the Colt’s Model 1860. It was not used on any other revolver and only to convert to 44 Colt. So the revolver I linked to is a fantasy revolver. It was an 1851 and converted to 38 S&W Special. (Okay, that revolver is wrong on many levels but that is food for another thread). Mason was also employed as an engineer with Colt’s and simplified the Richards conversion by removing the spring loaded firing pin, reshaping the hammer nose into a pairing pin, move it the rear sight to the breech end of the barrel and fully enclosing the ejector rod, and probably more. The Richards Mason design was used on various Models of Colt percussion revolvers.

Later, when the supply of percussion revolver parts was exhausted, the Open Top was designed from the drawing board as a cartridge revolver, not a conversion.

So, what I mean is if you see the complete Richards package on anything beside a Colt’s Model 1860, it is wrong.

Kevin
 
Choctaw said:
Every time Driftwood or CraigC post pictures of their guns/leather I seethe in a jealous rage. :D
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Every time they post them pictures, but especially Driftwood's .44 Colt, I can't sleep for a week, or eat for five days. I shake so badly that I've knocked out two teeth trying to brush. And my underwear...my poor underwear. Yeah...life ain't easy with them guys around.
 
@PapaG I respect that.

Recently, I just had to stop visiting THR because some members tried correcting me on something that they have no formal education on. I only have a master's in that topic, but whatever. Not worth fussing over, just needed to cook off.

Edit: I meant cool off. Good lord, I apologize.
 
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I agree, something like this ain't worth getting wrapped around the axle over. Hey Gob, you ever gonna send me that pistol to get tuned?
 
gobsauce said:
@PapaG I respect that.

Recently, I just had to stop visiting THR because some members tried correcting me on something that they have no formal education on. I only have a master's in that topic, but whatever. Not worth fussing over, just needed to cook off.
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Did ya "cook off" anything cool? When I disappear on a "walk about" I usually come up with a new chili recipe or do a nice rebuild of oneof my old guns... nice hearing from ya...:thumbup:
 
gobsauce said:
@PapaG I respect that.

Recently, I just had to stop visiting THR because some members tried correcting me on something that they have no formal education on. I only have a master's in that topic, but whatever. Not worth fussing over, just needed to cook off.
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Cook off must mean something different these days…
 
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