Pedersoli 209 converters
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These things have been around for 30 yrs or more.
Never understood why anybody would want them
Never understood why anybody would want them
Doak
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Reasons to want them, as well as "primer capsules", which use small p/r primers:
Improved, reliable, consistent ignition. Primers are hotter than caps. All of the ignition fire goes forward into the combustion chamber, carrying previous ignition residue w/it.
Primers are closer to the combustion chamber. Improved lock time.
Primers don't fall off.
No cap shrapnel or nipple blowback. No burnt stock wood. No eroded bluing.
Little or no powder residue at the breech. Less mess to clean up.
Tuning: Lock main-springs can be lightened, since there's no blowback. This is especially useful in revolvers.
Availability of primers.
All of the above apply to revolvers too.
Kindest Regards,
Doak
Improved, reliable, consistent ignition. Primers are hotter than caps. All of the ignition fire goes forward into the combustion chamber, carrying previous ignition residue w/it.
Primers are closer to the combustion chamber. Improved lock time.
Primers don't fall off.
No cap shrapnel or nipple blowback. No burnt stock wood. No eroded bluing.
Little or no powder residue at the breech. Less mess to clean up.
Tuning: Lock main-springs can be lightened, since there's no blowback. This is especially useful in revolvers.
Availability of primers.
All of the above apply to revolvers too.
Kindest Regards,
Doak
Tinpan58
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I got them for the reasons mentioned above, 209 primers a lot more fire down the hole. also if you cock both hammers and fire one barrel you don't have to worry about the other cap coming loose under recoil, as well as keeping the gun loaded long term. The howdah loaded with 70 gr t7 and 500 grains of lead in each barrel makes a great snake gun.
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1. never had a nipple fall off a rifle or double barrel
2. never had a problem igniting black powder with a perc cap
3. use a wax crayon around the nipple tip and never had a nipple fail to fire even in a driving rain storm.
4. never had a hammer blow back with normal loads and proper nipples. hammer blow back is normally the result of nipples with giant holes in them
5. never had caps shred on a rifle or shotgun (had it in a cap and ball revolver)
Those things couldn't be given away thirty years ago.
If your flash channel is open, there is no reason for such a thing.
I have had a problem gun or two on which an improperly drilled flash channel caused ignition problems. a little grinding with a dremel fixed that.
2. never had a problem igniting black powder with a perc cap
3. use a wax crayon around the nipple tip and never had a nipple fail to fire even in a driving rain storm.
4. never had a hammer blow back with normal loads and proper nipples. hammer blow back is normally the result of nipples with giant holes in them
5. never had caps shred on a rifle or shotgun (had it in a cap and ball revolver)
Those things couldn't be given away thirty years ago.
If your flash channel is open, there is no reason for such a thing.
I have had a problem gun or two on which an improperly drilled flash channel caused ignition problems. a little grinding with a dremel fixed that.
Doak
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That's interesting.
All those things that "never" happen, always happened at the match's I shot in.
It's why the flinter's always won.:-D
Kindest Regards,
Doak
All those things that "never" happen, always happened at the match's I shot in.
It's why the flinter's always won.:-D
Kindest Regards,
Doak
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I've never had a problem igniting black powder with a cap. Fortunately I can still get real black only 20 miles away. I have had them get knocked off when hunting in heavy brush. That was especially true with my underhammer. Developed the habit of constantly checking and putting a finger on the cap when moving through really heavy brush. Not a problem anymore since I now hunt with flintlocks.
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