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Picked up a new toy on the way home.

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by GunnyUSMC, Apr 8, 2019.

  1. GunnyUSMC

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    Today a friend of mine told me that he picked up a Sig P320-M17 from one of the local gun shops for $540. He said that the store manager had gotten three of them on a special buy.
    So I had time at work today to think about buying one or the used CZ 75 at another shop. And then there’s the fact that I haven’t bought a new gun this year.
    Well the shop with the Sig was the first shop of the tow on my way home so, I stopped in to have a look. The manager, Mike, was there and I had him pull the Sig out of the case. We shot the bull a little then I told him I would take it.
    Mike told me that Sig has some special offers right now for people that buy a new M17 so, I need to check their web site.
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    I’m not a fan of manual safeties on Striker Fire pistols but will learn to live with the ones on this pistol. I do find that the safety gets in the way when pushing the slide release, more so when holding the gun in my left hand. But I think this will be a fun gun to shoot.
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  2. BSA1

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    I agree that the thumb safety and slide release locations are poorly placed. It may be the result of the modular design.

    First new gun this year. Wow that was quite a dry spell.
     
  3. tommy.duncan

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    Very Nice!!
    I ave been looking at these for a while. I will patiently wait for a range report.
     
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  4. GunnyUSMC

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    Well, I didn’t pick up 5 used guns last month.:)
     
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  5. Sistema1927

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    Are you thinking about carrying this as a duty weapon (assuming you have that latitude)?
     
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  6. bannockburn

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    Gunny

    Looking forward as well to your range report and overall impressions of the gun.
     
  7. george29

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    Looks like an M&P
     
  8. 460Shooter

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    Nice pick up Gunny. Aught to be fun.
     
  9. GunnyUSMC

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    Don’t plan on using it for duty.
    If it doesn’t rain tomorrow, and I’m not busy at work, I’ll drive out to the range to play with it.
    Doesn’t feel like one.
     
  10. czhen

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    Gunny nice pick up, friendly reminder of the THR rule 230, 2nd edition, 5 review that state.
    Honest and unbiased review are almost mandatory (AKA ASAP) to stimulate the economy.
    Now seriously, congrats it is great price.
    Please post a your comments on the SIG.
     
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  11. Old Dog

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    I'm sure the OP knows that he's not required to actually use the manual safety.

    I also just had to pick one of these up when it was staring at me from under the glass in the case at my LGS last week … My excuse is that I've been trying to collect every military handgun used by the U.S. and its allies for the past 120 years.

    I already had two other 320s, and I'm starting to really like these pistols ...
     
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    Not a bad price. I paid a little over $700 for mine (including sales tax) earlier this year.
    When I got mine, the rebate was $50 (a credit at Sig's web store), which just about covered 1 extra magazine. (The gun came with 2 17-rounders and one 21-rounder.) I understand that now, they are offering 2 extra magazines as a rebate. Magazine cost on this gun is significant.

    One thing that bothered me was that the shades of FDE on the slide and the grip module clashed (as can be seen in your pictures). So, I got one in black (the Bravo edition) and spent about $50 on an extra grip module in FDE. Switching the grip modules is easy, and I ended up with a two-tone gun that looks really sharp.

    I recommend the Level 2 retention holster made by IMI in Israel. It fits like a glove, and even has the Sig-Sauer logo molded in. There is a matching magazine carrier that clips on the front of the holster.
    The gun will not fit in the old Bianchi M12 holster.

    One criticism that I have involves the so-called "night sights" on this pistol. The light-emitting elements are so dim as to be practically invisible. The front sight is OK, since it has a white dot surrounding the tritium element. I would have preferred a similar treatment for the rear sight, but that is not the case. Simple 3-dot sights would have been better. The odd thing is, if it's dark enough to (barely) see the rear sight dots, it's too dark to see the target. This goes into the category of, "What the heck were they thinking?"
     
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  13. GunnyUSMC

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    I had a little extra time this morning and was able to put a few rounds through the pistol in the test fire room. I only had a distance of 5 yards, but just wanted to get a feel for the gun.
    Here's the target.
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    That was five rounds in a tight cluster. I fired another round into the recovery tank to have a look at the bullet.
    Now for some pros and cons on the pistol. I'll start off with the cons.
    The sights: If you like night sights, you may be disappointed with the rear sight. The dots are very small and are not that visible unless it is pretty dark. Rear sight is not adjustable.
    The load indicator at the top of the slide has a very light spring and a waste of time and effort. The extractor has a bump on it and sticks out when a round is chambered. I guess the Army wanted the one on the slide.
    The breach face has the cut for the load indicator and another above the ejector. These cuts allow less support to the cartridge case, but they do leave nice marks on the cartridge.
    The ejector is part of the inter frame (the gun). it is very robust, but if it were ever to brake it can not be fixed or replace. The gun would have to be replaced.
    Trigger reset. It's a little spongy, will take some getting used to.
    Safety leaver kind of gets in the way of the slide stop. I see it as a problem for people with shorter thumbs.

    Now for the cons.
    The gun has great balance and points very good.
    The trigger has a little creep but breaks clean. The profile of the trigger is very nice and comfortable.
    The sights are nice. The rear sight gives a nice black contrast to the front sight making sight alignment fast and east.
    The slide is already cut for a RMR sight.
    Mag release is easy to reach and positive.
    Ambidextrous Safety lever and slide are positive.
    Magazines are easy to load.
    Disassembly is easy.

    Over all I really like this gun. I'm going to have fun putting rounds down range.
     
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  14. bannockburn

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    Lookin' good, accuracy wise!
     
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    Really? That seems exceedingly stupid on Sig's part. Does any other mainstream contemporary handgun design incorporate such an anomoly?
     
  16. GunnyUSMC

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    I'll have to take a look at my Beretta APX. You have to remember that this is a modular gun. The ejector would have to be mounted to the inter frame, or to the grip frame. But like I said, it is very robust.
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Glock does.

    That gun looks really fun! Nice price too.

    How does the muzzle flip feel?
     
  18. psyopspec

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    The Glock ejector is part of the trigger housing. Easy to throw in a new/different one on the same lower frame if needed.
     
  19. BSA1

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    As a dreaded p****r I can foresee getting one simply because it has been adopted by the military. I expect the cost of magazines to drop as more guns enter service and are offered for commercial sale.

    Son #1 is going to the sandbox for a one year deployment starting this summer. His unit has been issued new M-4 carbines with AGOG sights. No new pistols yet. Once he gets to the sandbox I'll ask him to keep his eye out on who is using the SIG.
     
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  20. murf

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    keep it off and think of it as an ambi thumb rest.

    nice pistol. looking forward to the range report.

    murf
     
  21. Arkansas Paul

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    Great looking pistol and first impression.
    I have been on a revolver kick lately and have done some swapping around. I am currently without a full sized auto.
    I really would like to add another for HD. I need to go to my local shop and fondle one of these.
     
  22. GunnyUSMC

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    There are a few reasons that I bought this gun and one is not because I'm a Sig fan. I have hundreds of long guns and they tend to take up a lot of space so, in the last few years I have been buying more handguns. I like full size service pistols and I like military guns. I bought the Glock 19X because it was the closes thing to what Glock had in the military HMS test and I bought this one for the same reason.
    I'm thinking of picking up a S&W 2.0 in FDE or a FN 509, but that will be down the road.
    No chance to make it to the range today, just to busy,.Maybe tomorrow.
     
  23. sparkyv

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    Great looking M17. I hadn't seen it in this particular two-tone version. My plain-Jane P320F just arrived at the FFL; I hope I like it. Looking forward to updated range report (beyond 5 yards). :D
     
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    I was able to make it to the range today, but not till after lunch. When I got there it was packed. My department was having inservice re-quals for office with birthdays April. The SO was doing simunition training with vehicle stops. The Fed. Marshals Task force was on a range, and there was another group using another range. The only open range was the rifle range, and that was being mowed by inmates.
    I sat around shooting the bull with some coworkers, I hadn’t seen in a while, until one of the ranges came open.
    I first fired at 25 yds, but didn’t terrible. Could be a number of reasons for that, like, it was 80 degrees, the sockets from where I just had two teeth pulled the other day started bleeding, or I was just shooting like crap. I think it was most likely that I was shooting like crap.
    I put a hundred and fifty rounds down range and finished off with this ten round group at ten yards.
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  25. 1976B.L.Johns.

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    Okay, 850 rounds left........
    but still considering your circumstances, not bad shootin'
    Dental work su&*(, hurts.
     
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