Picked up my first...an M44 Mosin Nagant
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TAKtical
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Very nice. Ive been looking for a 44 for a while now. What did you pay?
Ditchtiger
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The recoil is not as bad as people talk about.
Just hold it tight and lean into it a little.
Just hold it tight and lean into it a little.
It was a trade. Only place ive seen them right now in-stock is gunbroker for around 250$. Aim has it listed for 169$ but its been sold out for awhile.
AethelstanAegen
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Southern Ohio Gun has them in stock as well. I recently purchased one from them and I'm very happy with it.
Bhi curamach
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Nice!
As far as noise... yup, loud. Wouldn't want to shoot sans ear p
protection. Doesn't really seem louder than some handguns at an indoor range though.
Recoil? Yes, it has that. I'm pretty damned far from being described as a big guy.
Shorter side of average more likely.
No issues. Press it firmly against the shoulder and understand its not a .22 has always worked for me.
I shoot mostly milsurp ammo through mine, sometimes new stuff if I run across a box or three on sale.
Don't really understand the recoil complaints. Its not something Id shoot several thousand rounds through in one day but honestly Id get bored doing that with little or no recoil...
say a pellet gun. Meh...
Its an old bolt gun. Shoot 25 through 200. Call it a fun few hours or continue to another firearm....Repeat as needed.
Short attention span I guess.
Great rifle, enjoy it!
As far as noise... yup, loud. Wouldn't want to shoot sans ear p
protection. Doesn't really seem louder than some handguns at an indoor range though.
Recoil? Yes, it has that. I'm pretty damned far from being described as a big guy.
Shorter side of average more likely.
No issues. Press it firmly against the shoulder and understand its not a .22 has always worked for me.
I shoot mostly milsurp ammo through mine, sometimes new stuff if I run across a box or three on sale.
Don't really understand the recoil complaints. Its not something Id shoot several thousand rounds through in one day but honestly Id get bored doing that with little or no recoil...
say a pellet gun. Meh...
Its an old bolt gun. Shoot 25 through 200. Call it a fun few hours or continue to another firearm....Repeat as needed.
Short attention span I guess.
Great rifle, enjoy it!
WardenWolf
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The problem isn't so much that they're hard to find. It's that they're hard to find with a good bore. Unlike 91/30's where it's easy to find one with a good barrel, most M44's are practically shot.
I'm actually looking to purchase one as well. I've been scouring gunbroker and arms list. Not to hijack the thread, but is $250 a fair price for a laminated stock M-44? I've also seen some M-44's go for as low as $150, but they were clearly used and of dubious quality...
WardenWolf
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$250 is reasonable if you can get one with a good barrel. That's really the most important thing.
Kyle M.
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I've noticed this as well seems odd every m44 I see is pretty well shot out, but I can go to any of three gunshops nearby and get a 91/30 with bayonet and accessories for $99.99, and the bore will be near perfect.
kingcheese
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The m44 has became to much of a novelty, when i got my m38 it ran me 80$, now i take it to a gunshow and get offers from 200-300
fatcat4620
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Its the ammo. If we had to pay .303 or 8mm prices they would still be $80.
Deus Machina
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Glad I got Ivan for $69.95 when I did!
Not sure why M44's are much worse than 91/30's. They were made late enough that not many were even issued for WW2, I just suspect there are so many more 91/30s that it's a lot easier to find a good one.
As for recoil, yes. My 12-gauge didn't kick the same as Ivan, but that could just be a matter of perception. Ivan isn't a bench gun, he likes you to stand up and roll with it.
Not sure why M44's are much worse than 91/30's. They were made late enough that not many were even issued for WW2, I just suspect there are so many more 91/30s that it's a lot easier to find a good one.
As for recoil, yes. My 12-gauge didn't kick the same as Ivan, but that could just be a matter of perception. Ivan isn't a bench gun, he likes you to stand up and roll with it.
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Also, when you shoot it, the sights where adjusted with the bayonet "fixed" in the poking position, so if the sights seem off, extend the bayo
WardenWolf
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Weren't M44's issued more to officers? That could somewhat explain their bore. Officers wouldn't shoot as much, which would allow the corrosion from the ammo to take hold, but they'd clean their rifles about as often as normal line troops (or even less often, on the premise that it wasn't shot enough to get dirty). As long as the gun is being shot, the corrosion can't set up. It's only when it goes a long time between shots or between being shot and cleaned.
That's not 100% true. While many of them were calibrated with the bayonet fixed, there are some that were calibrated with the bayonet closed. You can always drift the front sight to adjust it.
That's not 100% true. While many of them were calibrated with the bayonet fixed, there are some that were calibrated with the bayonet closed. You can always drift the front sight to adjust it.
Godsgunman
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I got mine about 10 yrs ago for $88. I love it. I replaced the stock with a synthetic ATI one and its much lighter and easier to shoot. Makes the kick alot better also. Took some work with the dremel to get it to fit well.
DOn't beleive it when people say the recoil isn't that bad. That thing hurts! I noticed that if I bench the rifle or shoot it prone, the recoil is bad, but if I shoot it off hand or if I have my elbows resting on my knees while sitting, it's manageable. I also added a slip on butt pad which helped reduced the recoil in any shooting position.
Kyle M.
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It's not bad my H&R .410 kicks harder than my m44. I've shot 300 rds. of surplus in one day mostly from the bench, and never once thought it uncomfortable.
Franco2shoot
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Lots of tips here, so I'll toss one in that I haven't seen yet.
Clean the snot out of the chamber using a 12 gauge shotgun bore cleaner soaked in GASOLINE. Most if not all Mosins were soaked in Cosmoline for 20 or 30 years. The slightest remaining cosmoline will cause whats oft referred to as Mosin Bolt stik. The grease turns into glue with the heat of each shot. I cleaned and cleaned using typical off the shelf cleaners but couldn't get rid of the Bolt stik until someone put me onto the Shotgun swab and gasoline trick. Now all my M44's and my 91/30 operate as slick as a new Remington no matter what ammo I put through them.
KKKKFL
Clean the snot out of the chamber using a 12 gauge shotgun bore cleaner soaked in GASOLINE. Most if not all Mosins were soaked in Cosmoline for 20 or 30 years. The slightest remaining cosmoline will cause whats oft referred to as Mosin Bolt stik. The grease turns into glue with the heat of each shot. I cleaned and cleaned using typical off the shelf cleaners but couldn't get rid of the Bolt stik until someone put me onto the Shotgun swab and gasoline trick. Now all my M44's and my 91/30 operate as slick as a new Remington no matter what ammo I put through them.
KKKKFL
Actually I believe the opposite tends to be true. The 91/30s are older and heavily used during WWII and mine has a pretty pitted bore. The M44 was introduced at the tail of the war and were much less likely to have seen heavy combat usage. The M44 I bought for 89 bucks has a nice smooth more. It looks like it was barely shot.
The M44 is smaller, handier , and recoils less than the 91/30. I believe it was also produced in much smaller numbers.
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