Pietta 1858 44 cal New Army stainless steel best overall BP solution

[StuB996]

I have 3 Pietta 1858 44 cal New Army stainless steel Revolvers. One Sheriff 5.5", one 8" and the 12" Buffalo. They are amazingly accurate. They share cylinders and are easy to swap loaded cylinders as easy as any magazine. I use a quick release and have removed my loading levers since I load on a bench at home. I have collected 20 cylinders I have 120 rounds ready to go. All loaded n ready 35 grains 777. I have just completed a custom stock for the 12" Buffalo. Check out the pics. Enjoy

 

[StuB996]

 

[StuB996]

Target sighting in 50 yards

 

[StuB996]

Trump Silver dollars both sides

 

[Armored farmer]

Nice stock, I like the medallion!
Well done.
BP revolvers are great, dirty fun.
I favor the '58 myself.

 

[StuB996]

Keep Black powder smoke from your eyes

 

[StuB996]

Nice stock, I like the medallion!
Well done.
BP revolvers are great, dirty fun.
I favor the '58 myself.

Thanks for the comment, I will post more pics n a 6 round loader to press all 6 at same time. All equal pressure.

 

[StuB996]

Here is the loader

 

[rodwha]

I like the stock as well!

I’ve contemplated a custom stock for my ROA. I like the idea, which it appears you did as well, of having the revolver out around arms length as though you were shooting it as a pistol. It seems the sight picture would be ideal and it would keep your face further back.

How did you work with the way the stock connects? For the ROA I had contemplated reusing a grip panel and having the stock as the other panel, but I’m not sure how strong it would be there.

 

[TTv2]

They're my favorite cap & ball revolvers too, I have the Sheriff and 8" and have been looking to get a Buffalo for years now, but can never find any used steel frames.

Have long thought smaller, lighter 5 shot models would be great for carrying and probably be even better balanced as they wouldn't weigh as much.

Many prefer the Colt repros, but every NMA I've had I shoot better with than any Colt repro I've ever shot.

 

[StuB996]

I agree, 1858 Pietta great gun. I am looking to get another 8" and cut it down to a snobby 4". More fun up close

 

[StuB996]

I like the stock as well!

I’ve contemplated a custom stock for my ROA. I like the idea, which it appears you did as well, of having the revolver out around arms length as though you were shooting it as a pistol. It seems the sight picture would be ideal and it would keep your face further back.

How did you work with the way the stock connects? For the ROA I had contemplated reusing a grip panel and having the stock as the other panel, but I’m not sure how strong it would be there.

I like the stock as well!

I’ve contemplated a custom stock for my ROA. I like the idea, which it appears you did as well, of having the revolver out around arms length as though you were shooting it as a pistol. It seems the sight picture would be ideal and it would keep your face further back.

How did you work with the way the stock connects? For the ROA I had contemplated reusing a grip panel and having the stock as the other panel, but I’m not sure how strong it would be there.

Reply:
I measured the original grip. Ordered two additional stainless screws and indents n nuts. Cut the stock to allow one screw in frame n one in stock plus jb weld to bed it tight. The addition of the Creedmore tang sight gives a long picture. I am making another for a friend in tiger wood. Keep in touch I may make more if you are interested

 

[rodwha]

They're my favorite cap & ball revolvers too, I have the Sheriff and 8" and have been looking to get a Buffalo for years now, but can never find any used steel frames.

Have long thought smaller, lighter 5 shot models would be great for carrying and probably be even better balanced as they wouldn't weigh as much.

Many prefer the Colt repros, but every NMA I've had I shoot better with than any Colt repro I've ever shot.

There’s a company that sells the steel frames. Were you looking for it to be used?

 

[rodwha]

I agree, 1858 Pietta great gun. I am looking to get another 8" and cut it down to a snobby 4". More fun up close

I’ve considered cutting my sheriffs model too. I measured with the pin pulled and figured I could cut it down to about 4.25” and still be able to remove the cylinder. Were you planning on a different cylinder pin?

 

[expat_alaska]

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That is somewhat similar to the Sharps and Rem Rolling blocks that were used at Creedmoor for rifles while shooting at 1,000 yard range targets while lying prone on their backs with the barrel supported by their legs/knees insofar as the location of the rear aperture sight. Your custom stock must have taken you quite a while to envision and create and I commend you upon your creativeness, if that is a word. Where did you get the wood and the trigger guard aft of the grip frame? I am very curious to know how you accomplished that.

I am most impressed because in the 90's I converted a Remington Rolling Block #5 (smokeless) action in 7mm Mauser with a new .45-120 octagonal barrel, wood from Reinhart Fajen, a tangent rear sight, and a globe front sight for my Creedmoor rifle. It cost a pretty penny to produce and I sold it in 2000 to a guy who just had to have it for $1200, and I just may have broken even on the gun. Your gun is very much one of a kind, and I appreciate your time and vision.

Thanks for the photos, sir!

Regards,

Jim

 

[TTv2]

There’s a company that sells the steel frames. Were you looking for it to be used?

Yeah, cuz I'm not into a brand new one that costs $380+

 

[bannockburn]

StuB996

Love your Pietta stainless Remington NMA collection, especially the stocked Buffalo model! Also very ingenious with all those cylinders and how you reload them!

 

[rodwha]

Yeah, cuz I'm not into a brand new one that costs $380+

I tried to figure out the name of the company (something like Southwest or Southern something or other), and as I recall their prices were reasonable. I found the guy who runs it but hasn’t posted there since Dec 2018 or something.

 

[StuB996]

I’ve considered cutting my sheriffs model too. I measured with the pin pulled and figured I could cut it down to about 4.25” and still be able to remove the cylinder. Were you planning on a different cylinder pin?

No, I will cut n 8" SS new about $400 Cabelas. A great YouTube video
Building a Remington Bulldog Part 1 the duelist 1954. Step by step but I have to choose a front sight. My wife's Christmas present to me. I will post pictures. Working on a custom wood sled to lock in distance on the Creedmore tang sight. Camera tripod ok but moves too much. I want to push maximum accurate distance. Project this weekend

 

[StuB996]

StuB996

Love your Pietta stainless Remington NMA collection, especially the stocked Buffalo model! Also very ingenious with all those cylinders and how you reload them!

Easiest reloading. All chambers lead exactly the same pressure. If you don't mind cleaning the blues cylinders only $59 at Cabellas. SS temporarily discontinued, was the same price when I originally bought them. Should have bought more.

 

[bannockburn]

rodwha

I tried to figure out the name of the company (something like Southwest or Southern something or other), and as I recall their prices were reasonable.

Was it oldsouthfirearms.com?

 

[StuB996]

That is somewhat similar to the Sharps and Rem Rolling blocks that were used at Creedmoor for rifles while shooting at 1,000 yard range targets while lying prone on their backs with the barrel supported by their legs/knees insofar as the location of the rear aperture sight. Your custom stock must have taken you quite a while to envision and create and I commend you upon your creativeness, if that is a word. Where did you get the wood and the trigger guard aft of the grip frame? I am very curious to know how you accomplished that.

I am most impressed because in the 90's I converted a Remington Rolling Block #5 (smokeless) action in 7mm Mauser with a new .45-120 octagonal barrel, wood from Reinhart Fajen, a tangent rear sight, and a globe front sight for my Creedmoor rifle. It cost a pretty penny to produce and I sold it in 2000 to a guy who just had to have it for $1200, and I just may have broken even on the gun. Your gun is very much one of a kind, and I appreciate your time and vision.

Thanks for the photos, sir!

Regards,

Jim

Jim, labor of love. First proof was made out of 1/4" n 1/2 " premium plywood, fitted n laminated by hand, Adding a planer to my shop. Used a caliper to measure steel grip width. I am going to make some changes for the next one I am creating for a friend out of beautiful tigerwood. I will get back to you with the company I purchased the brass fittings from. Came un raw did a lot of dremel work and polishing to get the right. I think the set up should be accurate to 150 maybe 200 yards. I don't know how much drop yet for 44 cal 140grain. 35 grains 777.
SS should allow me slowly to work up to 45 grains. The 12" barrel should take full use of all that powder burn. I have shot 45 cal 200 grain lead flat nose very well but around 32 grains 777 is max I can fill with th length of the bullet. I will be getting a chronograph soon to test out. 140 grain ball, 35 grain 777 is pushing about 950-1000 fps Some YouTube videos. I will check for myself but that compares to 9mm or 357 light mag. We will see.

 

[StuB996]

No, I will cut n 8" SS new about $400 Cabelas. A great YouTube video
Building a Remington Bulldog Part 1 the duelist 1954. Step by step but I have to choose a front sight. My wife's Christmas present to me. I will post pictures. Working on a custom wood sled to lock in distance on the Creedmore tang sight. Camera tripod ok but moves too much. I want to push maximum accurate distance. Project this weekend

 

[rodwha]

rodwha



Was it oldsouthfirearms.com?

Ah, yes! That’s it.

 

[expat_alaska]

Jim, labor of love. First proof was made out of 1/4" n 1/2 " premium plywood, fitted n laminated by hand, Adding a planer to my shop. Used a caliper to measure steel grip width. I am going to make some changes for the next one I am creating for a friend out of beautiful tigerwood. I will get back to you with the company I purchased the brass fittings from. Came un raw did a lot of dremel work and polishing to get the right. I think the set up should be accurate to 150 maybe 200 yards. I don't know how much drop yet for 44 cal 140grain. 35 grains 777.
SS should allow me slowly to work up to 45 grains. The 12" barrel should take full use of all that powder burn. I have shot 45 cal 200 grain lead flat nose very well but around 32 grains 777 is max I can fill with th length of the bullet. I will be getting a chronograph soon to test out. 140 grain ball, 35 grain 777 is pushing about 950-1000 fps Some YouTube videos. I will check for myself but that compares to 9mm or 357 light mag. We will see.

Brother, you have it very well planned out! Kudos!

Looking forward to anything more you can add as time goes on. Very few folks do an enterprising a project as you have. I am in awe.

I hope you don't mind but I saved your pictures for my own library. Thank you!

Regards,

Jim