Pietta Replica Rigdon and Ansley

[expat_alaska]

Yeah, I know they don't make one but it's my possible next project.

I am retired on SS but have recently come up with a couple hundred dollars to spare to augment this.

I am looking for a Pietta 1851 Navy .36 plain cylinder of recent manufacture to machine with 12 bolt stop slots. I have a neighbor who is a retired Boeing machinist with a full machine shop/3-phase power, and has done excellent work for me in the past. I do believe he has the tools to create 6 more stop slots with the approaches on that cylinder, but I have to procure one first.

I have put in feelers to VTI and Taylors about the availability this morning. EBay has nothing.

If anyone knows where I can find a Pietta .36 smooth cylinder or a smooth 12-stop cylinder (.36 cal) I am all eyes/ears.

Just looking for a cylinder (with safety pins removed) for this:


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I prefer to keep my smooth cylinder for the L&R representation, as shown.

Thanks in advance!

Jim

 

[Smokin'Joe]

I cut an extra bolt slot on a .44 cal cylinder by hand. Having machine tools will make the process easy and professional
ttps://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/safety-notch.781832/#post-9930549

 

[Oohrah!]

Here ya go:

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Navy...oryId=734095080&CQ_search=cylinder&CQ_page=20

The replacement cylinder does not have the engraving on it.

 

[rodwha]

Odd. First off the pic shows it bare yet the description states it has them. However it is a fake .44 Navy cylinder and not the .36.

 

[Fingers McGee]

Here are my Rigdon and Ansleys - Actually 1864 CH Rigdons.

 

[rodwha]

Here are my Rigdon and Ansleys - Actually 1864 CH Rigdons.

It appears as though the one on the left has no leads for the safety notch whereas the other does. Is it just pic on my phone or were there versions?

This is a pistol I've not heard of until now.

 

[Fingers McGee]

It appears as though the one on the left has no leads for the safety notch whereas the other does. Is it just pic on my phone or were there versions?

This is a pistol I've not heard of until now.

They both have leads to the added stops. It's hard to see in the picture.

"The Original Confederate Colt - The Story of the Leech and Rigdon and Rigdon and Ansley Revolvers" by William A. Albaugh III and Richard D. Steuart is a great reference.

 

[daboyleroy]

Check out

http://www.littlegun.info/arme americaine/revolver confedere/a revolver confedere leech gb.htm

 

[Oohrah!]

Odd. First off the pic shows it bare yet the description states it has them. However it is a fake .44 Navy cylinder and not the .36.

Yeah, the picture is wrong, but if you look at the .36 cylinders in the store, they do not have engraving.

 

[expat_alaska]

Here are my Rigdon and Ansleys - Actually 1864 CH Rigdons.

Fingers, those are nice pistols! Thanks for the pics.

Now you have me drooling, sir.

Here ya go:

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Navy-Caliber-Spare-Cylinder/705084.uts?searchPath=/browse.cmd?categoryId=734095080&CQ_search=cylinder&CQ_page=20

The replacement cylinder does not have the engraving on it.

The Cabela's pic in the above link is a rebated .44 cylinder that Pietta used with their Reb 1851 Navy .44 which requires a cut water table, and as such will not fit my frame and it is not a .36, and I am not inclined to drive 2 hours to the nearest store to find out that the clerk at the counter does not know the difference.

Rodwha, another reference is "Confederate Handguns" by Albaugh, Benet, and Simmons.

Check out

http://www.littlegun.info/arme americaine/revolver confedere/a revolver confedere leech gb.htm

Another good overview with good pictures.

Thanks for the replies guys. Very much appreciated! Still waiting to hear from VTI and/or Taylors.

Jim

 

[expat_alaska]

I just ordered one from VTI for $104.95 including shipping. OMG! Call me stupid for the price, but it was somewhat cheaper than buying a complete pistol with a plain cylinder (Schneider and Glassick or a G&G), as both are hard to find anymore as a Pietta replica. And I still have almost $100 to go with my budget for my neighbor machinist. We'll see.

I really want to see this pistol in fruition as a replica, and I bow down to Fingers for his originals. He has probably more C&B pistols (many originals) than any one on any forums or even on this planet. If one needs info he is a very good go-to guy.

If anyone else on this forum has more info/pics I would love to hear/see.

When I get the cylinder I will advise as how I am proceding.

Thanks to all!

Jim

 

[Fingers McGee]

I really want to see this pistol in fruition as a replica, and I bow down to Fingers for his originals. He has probably more C&B pistols (many originals) than any one on any forums or even on this planet. If one needs info he is a very good go-to guy.

Jim

Jim,

I wish they were originals. The 64 CH Rigdons are reproductions made from a pair of Uberti L&Rs. They were defarbed and aged - not antiqued - to show 15 or 20 years of wear after the end of the late unpleasantness and to replicate a pair of pistols that my GG Grandfather ostensibly picked up in Augusta when he was with K Company 3d Texas Cavalry. They are marked the same as the originals with serial numbers 200 numbers higher than the real thing. Their Italian heritage is stamped on the underside of the barrel so there is no mistaking what they are.

Sad to say, I do not own any originals at this time. My large collection of reproductions is not near what Dr. Davis maintains; although mine is probably in the top ten.

 

[expat_alaska]

Well, I guess I like the fact that they are repros. It gives me a purpose for my project, even if it will be spendy.

Dr. Davis has an amazing amount of repros. He spent a whole lot of money and time acquiring them.

Thanks, Fingers.

Good night all, until the next episode.

Jim

 

[drobs]

Read the customer reviews on the Cabelas cylinder. 1st review from July 4th 2017:

Right Cylinder Wrong Picture
This, like all Pietta spare cylinders is a perfect fit for the Pietta Navy 36, except the picture is wrong. The 36 Navy cylinder is not rebated, it has smooth, parallel walls. This appears to be a picture of a 44 cylinder.

 

[Oohrah!]

^^^tryin' to tell ya. Order it, if you don t like the fit, return it. Cabelas is good about that.

 

[noelf2]

Read the customer reviews on the Cabelas cylinder. 1st review from July 4th 2017:

Right Cylinder Wrong Picture
This, like all Pietta spare cylinders is a perfect fit for the Pietta Navy 36, except the picture is wrong. The 36 Navy cylinder is not rebated, it has smooth, parallel walls. This appears to be a picture of a 44 cylinder.

I bought that same cylinder from Cabelas in May. It is the wrong picture, which cabelas does a lot. The cylinder you get is 36 cal, straight walled, and has the roll engraving.

 

[Panzerschwein]

These obscure (usually Confederate) Colt copies from the period are very cool, and many of them have quite a backstory for production. I'm glad to see Pietta making several different repros of these obscure Colt clones of the ACW.

 

[Navy Six 2]

Expat Alaska, sorry I didn't see your post earlier. I have a Pietta 36 cylinder just like you described. It is new, unused--I did put it on one Pietta Navy just to ensure correct fit and took it off again--and I removed the stock nipples just to make sure they would come out. They did so easily. Not sure if I still have them. Anyway, I have no use for this cylinder and if you are still in search for another we can come to an agreement. I am also retired so I get it.

 

[RCampb6131]

How about a non engraved Uberti cylinder for a 1851 Navy? I'm stil searching for one. Anybody have any ideas?

RC

 

[expat_alaska]

How about a non engraved Uberti cylinder for a 1851 Navy? I'm still searching for one. Anybody have any ideas?

RC

Hi, RC! I sent an inquiry to VTI today. It will probably be a few days before I hear anything. BTW, thanks very much for your help and info on the Pietta Dance .36 a while back. You saved me a lot of money and I am still contemplating a workaround with my machinist neighbor.

To everyone else, RC is a great forum neighbor, has good hands-on info, and posts very worthwhile photos. His photos (on another thread) of the Dance .36 cylinder and the standard Navy .36 cylinder was a real eye-opener to me. My good-to-go guy insofar as replicas go. I like plug-and-play parts on Pietta 1851 Navy type pistols for mix and match variations.

Jim

 

[expat_alaska]

I bought that same cylinder from Cabelas in May. It is the wrong picture, which Cabela's does a lot. The cylinder you get is 36 cal, straight walled, and has the roll engraving.

That is what I was afraid of when looking for a plain cylinder. Thank you for the input. I do not want the hassle of getting the wrong part and having to send it back for a refund.

These obscure (usually Confederate) Colt copies from the period are very cool, and many of them have quite a backstory for production. I'm glad to see Pietta making several different repros of these obscure Colt clones of the ACW.

I agree wholeheartedly, and I do think that someone at Pietta Marketing is lurking here. My Rigdon and Ansley project is on the horizon, and my next one is the somewhat correct Dance .36 based upon a Pietta 1851 Navy frame with no modifications other than having my machinist neighbor to mill off the recoil shields.

I have Pietta .36 parts and pistols (all CNC machined) at hand for: 1851 Navy Second Model (squareback), Third/Fourth Model, G&G, S&G, L&R, and a fantasy 1851 Navy Dragoon .36. I guess I am in an 1851 Navy rut.

Expat Alaska, sorry I didn't see your post earlier. I have a Pietta 36 cylinder just like you described. It is new, unused--I did put it on one Pietta Navy just to ensure correct fit and took it off again--and I removed the stock nipples just to make sure they would come out. They did so easily. Not sure if I still have them. Anyway, I have no use for this cylinder and if you are still in search for another we can come to an agreement. I am also retired so I get it.

That would be a great start for my upcoming Dance project. I am halfway through my allotted funds for the R&A pistol, and the rest will go to my cylinder machinist.

Please PM me with what you want for it, sir. I can always purchase nipples in the long run if you do not have them. I will have to scrounge up money for your cylinder.

Thanks to all for all of the replies on this thread. I really do appreciate them.

Till the next time, have a good day!

Jim

 

[expat_alaska]

RC: just got a reply from VTI:

000005 is in stock, but they all come engraved.

Sorry. I wish I could have done better for you. I'll try to keep looking for you.

Good luck in your quest!

Jim

 

[rodwha]

... and a fantasy 1851 Navy Dragoon .36.

Please explain.

 

[expat_alaska]

LOL! It is a Pietta 1851 Navy .36 Squareback TG with a part octagon/part round barrel and a plain non-engraved cylinder. Just mix and match parts. I wish Col. Colt would have had the foresight to manufacture one. It is of 2014 manufacture [CM] with the "tail" grip style. Last year of manufacture until the more "conventional" style grip profiles starting in 2015 with the manufacture stamp of CN.

Like I said, it is a fantasy pistol. Don't look for one on the market. If you want one you will have to create your own.


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[Navy Six 2]

Expat alaska, couldn't find your E-mail address so here is mine: [email protected]. You can have the cylinder for $20 and I'll pay the postage. Like I reported, it is new, unfired, no modifications and was mounted on a Pietta 36 Navy and cocked one time each chamber just to make sure nothing was amiss. I did find the stock Pietta nipples that were with it and will re-install if you want the cylinder. You can contact me at the above E-mail. Good Luck with your projects.