If shooting indoors, or at shorter ranges, the .38special +p serrated hollow point, does the job, is slightly kinder to the ears, and will have you back on target faster. 125gn .357m are the next step up, however I found that, by the time you get to full noise 158gn .357m, in a pistol the noise, flash, and barrel flip make rapid followups almost impossible! Some people, who spend a lot of time shooting could probably do it, but as an average hack I cannot.I live far from civilization. But I still completely agree with your thought process. If I want to slow a projectile down I'll do it with less powder. Not less barrel.
357 and 44 aren't extremely friendly in normal sized revolvers. The blast makes them impractical for defensive use. After firing my 357 indoors without hearing protection. I switched to a 40 S&W as a carry gun.
223 and 300 BO are as far up the RCP list I would go. That would have to be with a 10" barrel and a suppressor. Which puts you back to a carbine length firearm.
Exactly... you are 'improving' performance, enhancing efficiency, with both an increase in velocity, and length of sighting plane! And it works!'Pistols' shooting rifle rounds offend my inner engineer. It is a huge waste of the energy in a rifle round to shoot it from a short barrel, with unnecessary noise, flash, etc., and a significant loss of potential power. However, a .357 out of a rifle really maximizes the round, and there are some that approach 7.62x39 power levels. I find that kind of efficiency aesthetically pleasing.
So put this aesthete down for 'PCC'.
I think that there should be two more categories:
Most of the rifles mentioned above are actually carbines.
- PCC - Pistol caliber carbines, and:
- CCP - Carbine caliber pistols
Most of the rifle caliber pistols mentioned above use rounds that were really designed for use in carbines.
-And, yes, it matters.
That's my problem with the poll there's just way too much overlap and grey areas.Why does it matter?
Pistol caliber carbines vs Pistol caliber rifles is getting a pretty fine and requires a pretty good definition of the two terms, Unfortunately both of those terms have had pretty fuzzy definitions that have change through out history and thus a fair bit of overlap between a rifle and carbine especially when it comes to barrel length. For example, a 20 inch barrel is a carbine in some eras and a rifle in others.
I would also be interested in a succinct definition of carbine caliber too. For example is 5.56x45mm a rifle or carbine cartridge?
That’s what I thought when I saw the thread title – revolvers chambered in rifle cartridges.All of the "Rifle Caliber Pistols" shown above are really just rifles with short barrels (only classified by law as pistols). They really aren't pistols, like a regular hand gun.
I’ve never been a big fan of AR platforms. However, for some reason I am drawn to an ar pistol in 300blk. These photos are not making it any easier for me.
I tend to agree with what you guys are saying but a long cylinder BFR in 30-30 or 45-70 don't exactly meet the legal definition of "held in one hand" and I would argue that a braced 8" AR is easier to shoot that way.That’s what I thought when I saw the thread title – revolvers chambered in rifle cartridges.
Hello THR,
i just want to know what’s the general consensus. When it comes to those options, which one would you choose and why.
personally i like Rifle Cartridge Pistols because no matter what, they have more power than a pcc/pcr of the same size.
I think a rifle caliber pistol of any size to be unpleasant at best, unmanageable at worst.
Like @mcb said the 300 BO isn't bad especially with a linear compensator or blast can of some nature. My 12.5" 5.56 is definitely unpleasant without the suppressor the 2 chamber griffin paladin brake is very effective for recoil the gun doesn't seem to move at all but that could just be a side effect of the concussion.I think a rifle caliber pistol of any size to be unpleasant at best, unmanageable at worst.
I would also be interested in a succinct definition of carbine caliber too. For example is 5.56x45mm a rifle or carbine cartridge?
I didn't think of that one. You got me.I chose rifle caliber pistol since the .22 Long Rifle was originally designed for rifles and I shoot lots of it in pistols.