Pistols most likely to need repair.....

[wditto]

the people that like Kel-Tec are wonderful, and complimenting them is wonderful, but the gun is junk.
to imply that Ruger is not reliable nor dependable because it is heavy is very intelligent, but wonderful

 

[the naked prophet]

You don't know how many of those guns may have been sent in for custom work. I just sent in a S&W revolver for custom work.

You don't know how many were sold. You don't know how many may be going back to the factory for repair after possibly years and years of heavy shooting.

As for kel-tec, well, some people have problems with them, and some people are mechanically inclined. Kel-tec keeps their price down by skipping some of the more expensive and labor-intensive finishing operations. Those finishing operations are not necessary on 100% of the guns - most run fine without them. But it is left to the end user to do such finishing if required. It hasn't been on any of the several Kel-Tec pistols I've owned.

It should be expected, and little research is necessary to determine that it is the case. You can't expect to buy a new semiautomatic for less than $300 and expect it to be perfect without having to do any work on it. What's the next best gun cost? How is the quality of other guns in this price range?

I was able to afford a Glock, S&W, Browning, etc. I carry those over the Kel-Tec. But when I was poor, I bought a Kel-Tec and (would have if necessary) made it work with little more than sandpaper and a few hours of my time. I've since sold all of them but my P3AT which is quite accurate and aside from one loose pin which was fixed with loctite in approximately 20 seconds, has performed flawlessly.

 

[sonyhoppes]

the people that like Kel-Tec are wonderful, and complimenting them is wonderful, but the gun is junk.
to imply that Ruger is not reliable nor dependable because it is heavy is NOT very intelligent, but wonderful

I was going to mention something about that stupid and completely useless analogy, but I let it slide. And I fixed it for you.

And +1 on KT junk.

 

[sonyhoppes]

You don't know how many of those guns may have been sent in for custom work.

Uh, reality check. KT does NOT do custom work. They can barely keep up with FIXING their stock pistols. That's why their wait times have increased from a couple of weeks to 5-6+ weeks now. Check it out on KTOG.org.

You can't expect to buy a new semiautomatic for less than $300 and expect it to be perfect without having to do any work on it.

I have two .380 Bersas bought NIB that are dead nuts reliable and they were well under $300, so don't tell me KT can't do it at their cheap price, either. Not new, but I have several well under $300 Makarovs that have been nothing but reliable. Yes, I know they're not as small, light, blah, blah so spare me. There are much better under $300 carry choices out there than the cheapo quality KTs.

 

[Blue .45]

didnt ask if they were rentals.
yes, that could be true about the numbers, but this shop is small. just thought it was interesting to see. I was surprised by the number of rugers. not knocking rugers.

We don't know whether or not these are rental guns sent in for repair or customer's guns returned for repair. We don't know the round count for each gun or how well these weapons were maintained. There is too little information for that list to be a useful indicator of weapon quality.

 

[Stephen A. Camp]

This thread's run its course due to the name calling. One newer member here is likely not to remain here if this continues. We should be able to discuss different points of view without having to stoop to name calling or being argumentative and still establish the validity of our position(s).

It is not a hard thing to do.