Pit Bull Attack

[TallPine]

Saiga 7.62*39 works quite well to put down aggressive dogs - ask me how I know

Though a lever action 30-30 or .357 would likely work just as well.


Good job by your daughter, Sheldon - too bad she wasn't able to shoot the dog when the first attack occurred.

 

[MaterDei]

While pits are awesome with people

No, they are not.

"Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF (i.e., dog bite related fatalities) reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through1992, and Rottweilers were responsible for about half of human DBRF reported during the 4 years from 1993 through 1996....[T]he data indicate that Rottweilers and pit bull-type dogs accounted for 67% of human DBRF in the United States between 1997 and 1998. It is extremely unlikely that they accounted for anywhere near 60% of dogs in the United States during that same period and, thus, there appears to be a breed-specific problem with fatalities." (Sacks JJ, Sinclair L, Gilchrist J, Golab GC, Lockwood R. Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998. JAVMA 2000;217:836-840.)

Those of you who own 'friendly' pit bulls should be interested in this

In more than two-thirds of the cases included in the study, the life-threatening or fatal attack was apparently the first known dangerous behavior by the animal in question.

 

[highlander 5]

I don't worry about pit bull and the like I worry about the ankle biters or as I call them mops with legs in retrospect I remember Xavier Cougat and he was a regular on a daytime show. He always had his dog a Mexican hairless this dog HATED the MC he would growl,snap froth at the mouth it was a riot.
Friends mother had a ****z Zu the dog attacked the grand son 80+ stitches dog was put down the next day

 

[salvador31c]

Blame the deed, not the breed, folks

Thank You!!

Its like the anti's blaming guns for the actions of the owners it should not be done.

All dogs have the ability to be aggressive so do humans does that mean that if a mexican man kills we should put down the whole race or look down on the whole race and ban the whole race as they do with pitbulls i dont think so

MaterDei the Germans caused how many deaths? does that mean we should look at all future people of that Country as you do Pitbulls or how many black men comite crimes do we look at them the same way or the KKK ect. we can not blame the whole breed or race for the actions of a few.

 

[tellner]

All dogs are good dogs except when their owners mistreat them? There are no differences between breeds that make some inherently more dangerous except for the little yappy ones that we don't like?

Sorry. There are temperamental differences between breeds. It doesn't predict the behavior of any individual dog. Training and handling count for a lot. But some are more livestock-dangerous than others. Some are much more likely to be one-family dogs - loving pets to the people they consider pack but aggressive towards others. Some breeds are statistically more hostile to other dogs. A dog isn't like a gun. It's got volition and genetics. And some are just plain dangerous because of what they are. An owner who isn't willing to face this and to shoot his own dog the moment it is a danger is acting irresponsibly.

 

[MaterDei]

MaterDei the Germans caused how many deaths? does that mean we should look at all future people of that Country as you do Pitbulls or how many black men comite crimes do we look at them the same way or the KKK ect. we can not blame the whole breed or race for the actions of a few.

1. Equating dogs and humans is silly.
2. I never made any comment as to what should be done with Pit Bulls, I only posted data that was referenced. I did not come up with those stats.
3. It is a fact that Pit Bulls are killers, more than any other breed. The dog alone is not to blame. The fault belongs to the breed, the owners, and the breeders. I'm not naive. If pits were to be outlawed somehow the breeders would just take another breed such as German Sherpard Dogs or Dobs and breed them for agressiveness just as they have the pits. The owners, likewise, would treat and train said animals like they do their pits and we would need to eliminate (somehow) that breed next. Eventually we would all be arguing about how terrifying those toy poodles are.

 

[bb21]

Pit bull

+1 MasterDei
I personally don't like the Pit bull breed at all, there is a reason why so many cities ban them and why they are in the news so much. True there are exceptions, but It seems to me that with any vicious breed the common denominator is an irresponsible owner and certain types of people are attracted to Pit bulls. I was sent an email a year or so ago with pictures of a Pit bull who attacked a Porcupine, it is my opinion that only a truly vicious animal would continue to attack a porcupine until he is completely covered in quills. The picture is kind of sad, kind of funny but shows how lethal these animals are. http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_pit_bull_vs_porcupine.htm

 

[Zoogster]

People who improperly breed pitts should be shot too.

Pitts were originaly bred to fight other dogs. They were not designed for protecting people, they were intentionly bred to have the least hesitancy to attack. I find it cruel and am against dog fighting but several dogs were bred in the 18-19 century for dog fighting, or mousing (where they bet to see who could kill the most rodents in a pen in the fastest time, terriers were bred for this.) Pits are a combination of terriers and muscular fighters, so they inherently have the attacking instinct of the terrier and the power of something larger.
However modern dog breeding focuses on looks (that were originaly just a coincidental thing) and not ability to perform the tasks the breed was designed for. The AKC for example is more concerned with the perfection of the animal's colors, coat and walk than its intellect or ability to perform the tasks. So in fact the good temperment of a pit bull is due to bad breeding, not the reverse.
Fighting dogs training is cruel and I hate to even mention it, but it includes record keeping of which dogs cower or ever stop fighting due to injury etc. A dog that is foolish and willing to die and continue fighting even after losing a leg is considered superior breeding stock to an animal that realises it has lost and submits or ever hesitates and thinks before attacking. So they are by design supposed to have the least thought between feeling the desire to bite and biting. To have large powerful jaws, and to have a high pain tolerance. These combined features mean that killing such a dog is the only way to effectively stop the damage they are inflicting immediately.

Now combine this with a terrier which was originaly by design supposed to desire to kill small rodents as fast as possible and you have a poor family pet.

It is because most dogs are bred for coloration and not purpose anymore that has allowed enough dilution of thier gene pool to even make such a bad breed a house pet. When people bred dogs for purpose a brand new pit bull puppy even with the best upbringing would have grown into a dangerous dog to have around children or other animals. Some are still this way, others are diluted enough to do better.
A loving enviroment and proper ubringing and training can make them less of a liability, but it does not change what they physicly are and the short circuit their brains make in some situations by design.

 

[RNB65]

My approach is pretty simple. If any dog enters my property and acts in an agressive manner, he's getting a load of buckshot. Particularly if it's one of the breeds known for agressive behavior (PB's, Rottie's, Doberman's, etc.). I love dogs, but I'm not taking any chances with agressive dogs running loose. If the owner can't keep it under control, I will.

 

[jonsidneyb]

I am sorry but the Poodle at one time was a war dog. Not a guard dog but a war dog. It got breed the opposite direction into what we see today. Smaller and well, different than it used to be.

 

[Cosmoline]

I was sent an email a year or so ago with pictures of a Pit bull who attacked a Porcupine, it is my opinion that only a truly vicious animal would continue to attack a porcupine until he is completely covered in quills

I've seen huskies with as many quills in them. It doesn't take long at all. Besides, if your evidence comes off a chain email you should probably reconsider your position.