pauli
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dogs are the reason i've got a loaded shotgun in the house. not too worried about people around here - but a dog attack at the school bus stops outside my house does concern me.
Where have I refuted this:banghead:Accidents still happen. They will always happen
And this is somehow more important than taking measures to prevent that harm?Individuals have a right to get even with those that harm them.
If a dog is attacking a small child how much good is a shotgun going to be.dogs are the reason i've got a loaded shotgun in the house. not too worried about people around here - but a dog attack at the school bus stops outside my house does concern me.
,If you know that you are going to be bit anyway it makes sense to choose what he gets to biteI took out my folder, blade up and resigned myself to the fact I was going to be hurt really bad, but the dog was going to die. The plan was to try to sucker the dog into grabbing my left arm , and stick the knife in at it's balls and cut till I hit the ribcage
joab said:Where have I refuted this:banghead:
Do you deny that safety regulations have decreased the number and severity of injuries caused by auto and work place accidents
And this is somehow more important than taking measures to prevent that harm?
Or is it just that getting even is so much more macho.
well you would at least have that satisfaction every time you look at your child's ruined face.It is not about "macho" it is about the natural right of a harmed individual to get retribution. It need not be physical, it could be financial. It is up to the harmed person to decide which route to take.
joab said:well you would at least have that satisfaction every time you look at your child's ruined face.
And when you go into their room to comfort them from the trauma induced nightmare you can console them by telling them how big the cash award will be.
If you have a large dog you must have a suitable fenced enclosure.
If you do not have a suitable fenced enclosure you would be subject to the same criminal penalties as you would if your dog bites someone now.
Tell me how that will not work or how it some how violates anybodys rights.
Tell me how imposing bans or shooting it out with dogs in the neighborhood is a better option
silverlance said:i think that the cali-crap foisted on gun owners would be put to better use on dog owners. i own a relatively large dog, about 80lbs, and i would totally understand the gov making me take a "class" like HSC and making me prove that i have proper enclosures of at least 4" in height all around.
I should also have to prove an immunization record, and i should also be required to "chip" the dog (for many, many, reasons).
then again, maybe i am required to do all these things, but since my dog is a rescue, i don't have any idea. hehe.
Ps: i already do all these things; any dog of mine that bites anyone innocent will be a dead dog by sunset, however much i love that dog.
Nothing to do with genetics? That Im sorry my friend is BS. When you breed an animal for aggressivness that is genetic plain and simple. And animal that has had aggressivness bred into it is a GENETIC trait. It has zero to do with training in some cases. Sure any dog can be trained to attack, but which takes to it more naturally?I kinda glanced through this thread and I havta call BS on the genetic thing. A dog will conduct itself as it is trained, and the burden falls on the owner. A pit is no more a 'assault dog' than is a AR-15 a assault rifle.
Incidentally, I've never owned a pit or a rotty, but I know dogs. I can train a poodle to be a killer or turn a pit into a pussycat. It has little to do with the breed.
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History shows that the majority of dog attacks involve dogs that have gotten free or children have had too easy access to where the dogs are.And why do you assume my child will be injured or that your fencing regs will prevent it?
where have I suggested otherwise.Do we agree that if your methods fail to stop an attack I have the right to go after the dog owner
joab said:History shows that the majority of dog attacks involve dogs that have gotten free or children have had too easy access to where the dogs are.
A proper fence would have prevented this attack, or do you dispute that
Do you deny that keeping dogs in proper enclosures greatly lessens if not eliminates the possibility of them attacking an innocent party.
Do you dispute that securing the fence from the outside as well as inside will prevent children from inadvertently entering the dogs enclosure/territory
I have many more conditions that would put on owners of large dogs in my kingdom, the fence is one of the most minor
Yes and noI kinda glanced through this thread and I havta call BS on the genetic thing. A dog will conduct itself as it is trained, and the burden falls on the owner. A pit is no more a 'assault dog' than is a AR-15 a assault rifle.
Incidentally, I've never owned a pit or a rotty, but I know dogs. I can train a poodle to be a killer or turn a pit into a pussycat. It has little to do with the breed.
The next falling star you see make a wish that every one will take responsibility for their actions and the actions of their animals.Need it be by government mandate? Is there a better way?
This brings up something that is interesting to me.If one hurts my child it will DIE, and the owner will never see the way out of the trouble he will have.