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Pitbull Confrontation

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by bg226, Jul 22, 2011.

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  1. bg226

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    A friend and her child had been confronted on their property by a lone, aggressive pitbull. She has a .22LR Revolver at home and would like some advice on what would be a suitable replacement for protection in this case.
     
  2. ichiban

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    12 gauge, 00 buck. Seriously.
     
  3. beeenbag

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    I would say just about anything .380 or up. Lcp maybe for ease of carry or a small 9mm. Most people that don't carry religiosly won't make much sacrifice to carry. I would advise something small but potent. Even a j frame would be great.
     
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    I second the 3" 12ga 00 suggestion for general purposes. For close up you won't find a handgun that hits quite so hard. Each rounds is about like getting shot by a .380 . . . a dozen or more times.

    Just to carry something at all times though, I'd just go with an easily carryable centerfire of 9mm or higher if auto, or .38 spcl or higher revolver.
     
  5. beeenbag

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    I second the shotty for keeping around the house, but in all reality if you are outside when shtf which you would about have to be to be attacked by a dog, you need something fast. That's why I am a firm believer in always carrying, even at home.
     
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    I'd start with a canister of bear spray then pick up a 12ga as a supplement.

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  8. Fat Boy

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    I would start with a phone call to law enforcement. Be informed on legal ramifications of discharging a weapon outside; not saying don't just be sure of legality. Just my 2 cents
     
  9. SquareBeer

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    ditto with the spary which can be carried on person and in tandom I would have a .380 or maybe a 9mm with hollow points. A shotgun is a good idea, however, you will have to shoot this dog while they are attacking or chasing somebody one would think.

    It would as well be helpful knowing how far your neighbors are!
     
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    Antifreeze and ground meat will take care of the problem
     
  11. sirgilligan

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    Dogs are tough. I empty a 22 rifle on a German shepherd and it was just barely enough. I hit every shot.

    A 22lr isn't enough to do the job, IMO.

    I would want a 9mm or like they have said, a 12 gauge shotgun.
     
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    Not anymore. Modern made antifreeze will not kill dogs, just make them sick.
     
  13. GLOOB

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    ^ Terrible. Yet apparently completely legal, as long as it's on your own property.

    Give the dog a chance, first. I'd recommend talking with the neighbor and letting them know you are afraid of their dog. Not angry that it's running around. Afraid. Some owners don't get it, because their little puppy is so nice and friendly all the time - when the owner is around. When they tell you not to worry, because he's friendly and doesn't bite, get it into their head that the dog acts different when the owner isn't there. If they care about their dog, they'll fix the problem. If they don't take kindly to your words, at least you tried. Call the police. Be prepared.
     
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  14. 9mmepiphany

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    I've seen aggressive dogs take hits from 9mms and .40s and pretty much shake it off...I wouldn't put much faith in a handgun against a dog of less power than a .357 Magnum with at least a medium weight bullet; 140gr+
     
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    1. It's allways best to be ready for the worst. Get a .45 and a small can of bear spray. Learn how to use them.

    2. File a report with the police about the loose dog.

    3. A big guy like myself is handy to have around. I'm good enough with dogs to quickly determine if the aggressive dogs truely are a problem. Do your friends know anyone that's good with dogs? It may not actually be a bad dog.

    4. A .22 ain't going to stop jack. Dogs like a pit don't allways respond to body pain. And a .22 isn't even going to be felt until an hour after the dogs on top of you anyways. You'd have to hit something vital, and IMO, it's too hard to do that with a .22 on a pit bull. A .22 that deosn't hit the CNS, is not going to do anything. Bear spray would be more effective. Keep in mind that dogs are big noses with teeth and legs. Bear spray is hell on eyes and noses.

    Assume the dog is as tough as a person. Nothing smaller than 9mm +p will do.

    100% good idea to have a gun. But a novice shooter is going to run out of luck quickly unless that dog just wants to sit there and growl. (And if it's just sitting there growling it's not much of a threat is it?) It's best to be prepared with a knife as well, incase all your shots are ineffective and you end up on the ground. Training is going to be key. A dog moves a whole lot faster than a human target.
     
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    I forgot to add that I second...or third now I guess...the recommendation of the bear spray
     
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    My minimum for dogs is .38 Special +P 158 gr. It is a very active consideration, since I believe, for me, dog attack is more likely than human attack.

    In a semiauto pistol, I'd like .40 better than 9.
     
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    I remember when I was a kid we had a rabid pitbull roaming the neighborhood. We think it was abandoned by someone. After many of the neighborhood animals were killed, including 2 of our cats and 1 of our dogs, and many sitings, all of us kids were not allowed outside until the thing was caught/killed.

    Law enforcement did nothing, mostly because no one knew where the dog had taken up residence. However, I remember my father driving with his 12ga in his car, just in case he saw it while going to/from work. His .357 was with him, but he figured the 12ga would have been better for a charging dog.

    Our neighbor was the one who finally put it down. That beast took 5 shots from a .45 to go down. Our neighbor said the only reason that worked was because the 5th shot was a head shot. Not sure if he was using hp or fmj though. The dog was charging our neighbor in his front yard when the final encounter happened.
     
  19. 1911Tuner

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    I've got a completely off the wall suggestion. I know that it's a little unorthodox when the subject of Pitbulls comes up...but why not try to befriend the dog. If it was truly being aggressive, it would have attacked without hesitation.

    I did that two years ago with an abandoned Pitbull, and she's turned out to be a loyal and devoted companion who won't even retaliate against my Chihuahua when he nails her in the face. I can literally put my hand into her mouth and take food away from her.

    For what it's worth, you can handle aggressive dogs neatly with a pointy stick, and you avoid bouncing lead all over the neighborhood.
     
  20. vellocet

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    shotgun: advantages: You can get the muzzle right next to their heads probably without getting bitten. Instant effect. Gun can also be used to fend off other dogs. Disadvantages: Pellets can really migrate against bone. Messy. pistols: no matter what caliber, no advantages. Much potential for shooting something other than the dog. Final solution, as we all know, ban and remove that breed.
     
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  21. Zerodefect

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    Exactly.

    Find a big Pit Bull collector/breeder/fan whatever online. He'd probally be happy to pick up a stray. It's not something I'd let my Women do, but I can handle big dogs. Pit bulls are great passive dogs once you figure out how to keep them in a way that deosn't mentally wreck them.
     
  22. jmresistance

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    It all depends on where you hit it. I got attacked by a stray cat when I was a kid and my dad shot it 9 times with a 20ga loaded with buckshot. He hit every shot and if you weren't there when it started, you wouldn't know it was a cat. But, it was still trying to come at us!

    On the flip side my friend's dad was trying to scare off a big, stray dog by shooting over it's head and hit a little low... He dropped it dead with one head shot and that was with a .22lr...
     
  23. Loosedhorse

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    I should have been clearer. My recommendations were for head-shots only.
    A single headshot avoids the bouncing lead problem, and is better than a pointy stick.

    Hey, I love dogs, especially my own. But I have suffered my last bite, if I have any say in the matter.
     
  24. 1911Tuner

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    Yep, Zero. Pits have gotten a bad rap. I've been rescuing for a long time. I've crawled under house trailers and into culverts to retrieve injured dogs. I've got bite scars on both arms from the wrists to the elbows...and I've never been bitten by a Pit.

    On the suggestion to use antifreeze...

    I'll keep it to myself in the interest of staying on the high road. They die hard from antifreeze. Very ugly and painful way to go.
     
  25. vellocet

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    He wants to know about how to kill them best, not how cute and cuddley they are.
     
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