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Pizza deliveryman won't be charged

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  1. 36fan

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    Pizza deliveryman won't be charged

    By Vic Ryckaert
    vic.Ryckaert@indystar.com
    May 28, 2004
    from: http://www.indystar.com/articles/5/150455-2405-102.html

    A pizza deliveryman who killed an armed man who was trying to rob him will not face criminal charges, the Marion County Prosecutor's office announced today.

    "It's a clear case of self-defense," Deputy Prosecutor Barb Crawford said. "He did what the law allows him to do to protect himself."

    Ronald B. Honeycutt, 38, Carmel, shot Jerome Brown-Dancler, 20, 9500 block of East 39th Place, more than a dozen times on May 17.

    The evidence shows that Brown-Dancler pointed a 9mm handgun at Honeycutt, who had had just finished making a delivery about 11 p.m. in the 3600 block of Long Wharf Drive on the Far Eastside.

    Brown-Dancler's gun was loaded with 14 rounds, but had no bullet in the chamber, Crawford said. Honeycutt produced his own 9mm and fired until it was empty.

    After the shooting, Honeycutt told The Star he was just getting into his van when Brown-Dancler appeared to go for a gun.

    Honeycutt kept shooting after the would-be robber hit the ground, evidence shows. He took the man's gun, fearing it might be stolen if it was left with the body. He got in his van, drove to the Pizza Hut Restaurant where he worked and told his manager to call police, Crawford said.

    "This was late at night. This was a high-crime area," Crawford said. "He left because he wasn't sure whether or not Brown-Dancler had any friends with him. As it turns out, he did indeed have friends with him. They left when they heard shots fired."

    Police found both guns in Honeycutt's van.

    Honeycutt says he fired 15 shots, but Crawford said the medical evidence cannot determine how many times Brown-Dancler was hit. The evidence shows only that he was shot more than 10 but less than 15 times, Crawford said.

    Honeycutt said he was fired from his job at Pizza Hut because he had violated the firm's policy against carrying a gun.
     
  2. R.H. Lee

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    Still though he should have ****. I'm glad he will not be charged and I'm impressed with his hit ratio.


    Pizza Hut can ****.
     
  4. Reno

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    Good that he isn't facing charges. Hopefully he won't have to face a civil suit.
     
  5. UnknownSailor

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    I drove for Pizza Hut for 8 months back when they first started their delivery service in 1990. Company policy even then was no weapons for self defense. Just give the perp what they want.

    Were I to take a part time job with them again, I would not stop carrying. Concealed means concealed. My life is more valuable than the job, TYVM.
     
  6. buy guns

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    hooray!
     
  7. Smoke

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    I thought forensics was better than that.:what:

    Must have had several rounds go in the same hole, maybe lots of times.

    Good shooting.

    Smoke
     
  8. Sawdust

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    An excellent example of lawfully dispensing a little chlorine into the gene pool.

    Yeaaaaahhhhhhhhhh Baby.

    Sawdust
     
  9. ny32182

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    Glad there was a happy ending so far... although it sounds like the pizza boy's life may have been saved not so much by his shooting skills, but by our criminal genius not knowing to chamber a round.

    And, Pizza Hut can stick that policy somewhere, for sure.
     
  10. Linux&Gun Guy

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    :p I feel great as I sent a letter to PizzaHut. Of course one letter dosn't do much but its a drop in the bucket that was chucked on them:D
     
  11. El Tejon

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    There's a reason they call this the "whose ear" state!:cool:

    While given a potential Marion County jury pool and voting rolls, this is not unexpected. (My father called me twice on this, once asking how to volunteer for jury service--I THINK he was kidding). However, it is much welcome news.
     
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    I just wish the poor slob could hold Pizza Hut neglegent for not providing a safe working environment. Slip on a grape and a dozen alphabet agences will decend upon the employer. Yet when an employee has to break company policy to protect his life, the employer walks off scott free.

    Doesn't seem right to me.
     
  13. Standing Wolf

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    Bet he won't make that dumb mistake again!

    Yeah, but he's alive. Even if Pizza Hut's fare were edible, I'd never do business with the company again.
     
  14. chas_martel

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    I say a boycott of Pizza Hut is in order.

    We just started tonight. Had a Jr High party where we would have normally used
    Pizza Hut. 8 pizza where just delivered by another local Pizza delivery
    service.

    I plan to send Pizza Hut a receipt and tell them why they just lost me as a customer.

    I know some will whine telling me boycotts are no good but, folks, this is the only
    way we can influence corp's.
     
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    I guess the delivery guy must have read the tag line from one our THR members (don't remember who) that read "Screw double tap, I'm going for slidelock!"
     
  16. Browns Fan

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    I plan to send Pizza Hut a receipt and tell them why they just lost me as a customer.

    This is a great idea... you may want to take it a step further by sending a copy of the receipt and a copy of this article to your new pizza place, with an explanation that they better not pull the same crap or you will go some where else or make your own pizza.
     
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    If the shots were fired while the body was on the floor, the ricochet from the ground might mean the body had bullets pass through it more than once from the same bullet. So they will have to determine entry and exits and angles... (Too much CSI :D )

    Good for him.

    I'm ok with being alive enough to get fired...

    Pizza Hut, just lost another customer :barf:

    Papa John's, WAY better anyways.
     
  18. Carlos

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    Good news.

    Pizza Hut can kiss my ....

    It's worth taking my time to write them a letter.

    Kustom Pizza, Portland, Oregon, RULES!!!!! I could walk in there with drop leg holstered 45 and an AK, and they'd say "Cool."

    :D
     
  19. Standing Wolf

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    Boycotts and E-mail message can be very effective. It sometimes takes mere dozens, not even thousands.
     
  20. skeetlover

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    Awesome, I'm happy for the guy who defended himself I'm just a little worried about myself!

    I'm only 18 and I just got a phone call tonight and became and employee of Mountain Mikes Pizza and I will be doing delivery. Since I am only 18 I will not be packing but, I will have my kershaw blackout and pepper spray on me whether company policy agrees or not. Safety is more important. Anyway good thing he defended himself I'm proud of him and wish him the best of luck. Bye for now guys.

    Mark
     
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    I couldn't agree more, I love that garlic sauce.

    Just took a few minutes and sent Pizza Hut a negative email. I didn't like their pizza much anyway.
     
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    It is a shame he got fired for defending his life and removing a bad guy from society.

    I really liked Pizza Hut pizza, but I can go elsewhere.
     
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    Pizza Hut is owned by PEPSI, so you can start boycotting all PEPSI owned stuff as well... PH, taco bell, and MANY, MANY other brand names that I can't recall at the moment...
     
  24. WonderNine

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    I never liked Pizza Hut anyways. Somebody forgot to tell them to put pizza sauce on their pizzas ten years ago.

    Plus they're overpriced!!!!

    I ate the buffet lunch at a Pizza Hut with a couple friends about 6 years ago when I was working Tech Support for Gateway 2000. To bad they couldn't keep the buffet filled. Gee it's not like the restaurant was full or anything. :rolleyes:

    Gee, when can I get another piece of pizza???? I've been here for twenty minutes and I ate a half slice, but I got my sugar water refilled twice now. Oh yes the pizza person brought out another pizza......it's only been fifteen minutes...Oh yes...on more piece for me....
     
  25. TechBrute

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    LMAO! Here's to all the people that say that you can't expect to hit anything under pressure.:neener:

    Gee, I hope he can live with the loss of his crappy $2 an hour job that puts wear and tear on his car. I wonder if Pizza Hut would have held his job while he was in a coma for multiple gunshot wounds?:rolleyes:
     
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