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Pizza Hut Does Not Value Life

Discussion in 'Legal' started by shooterx10, Jun 29, 2004.

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  1. shooterx10

    shooterx10 Member

    May 8, 2003
    Pizza Hut Does Not Value Life
    By Dave Gibson (06/28/2004)

    Last month, a Pizza Hut deliveryman Ronald Honeycutt foiled a robbery attempt. When his assailant pointed a 9mm handgun at him, the deliveryman shot and killed him. The next day, Pizza Hut fired Honeycutt.

    Around 11p.m. on May 17, 2004 Honeycutt had just made a delivery in a very rough part of Indianapolis. He walked back to his van, where he was approached by Jerome Brown-Dancler. The would-be robber aimed his gun at Honeycutt, at which time he drew his own 9mm and squeezed off the entire clip. After Brown-Dancler fell, Honeycutt picked up the assailant's weapon and drove back to the Pizza Hut. Upon his arrival, he instructed a manager to phone police.

    Honeycutt has a concealed weapons permit, and claims to have carried a handgun for every one of the last twenty years that he has been delivering pizzas. Indianapolis prosecutors quickly cleared him of any charges. Deputy Prosecutor Barb Crawford said: "He did what the law allows him to do to protect himself." Crawford went on to say: "This was late at night. This was a high-crime area. He (Honeycutt) left because he wasn't sure whether or not Brown-Dancler had any friends with. As it turns out, he did indeed have friends with him. They left when they heard shots fired."

    It is obvious that Ronald Honeycutt acted in self-defense and was clearly within his rights to do so. It is also obvious that had he not been carrying a weapon--he could have easily been killed. He is with his family today, as a result of his constitutional right to keep and bear arms. However, Pizza Hut apparently would rather have their employees gunned down, than allow them to defend themselves. :cuss:

    Pizza delivery personnel are a favorite target of armed robbers. They are alone, in a strange neighborhood, they are carrying at least a small amount of cash, and they are probably not armed. In short, they are extremely vulnerable and more than likely, not present a challenge to the assailant. Pizza Hut even goes so far as to announce that their employees are not allowed to carry weapons...This action basically places a target squarely upon the backs of their delivery drivers.

    Honeycutt's dismissal has not gone un-noticed by Indianapolis residents. Pizza Hut has reportedly received many complaints and business is down. :neener:

    Indianapolis attorney Rick Whitham told World Net Daily: " I hope that those of you in the media will realize the incredible unfairness of a huge company telling it's employees--in essence--they must agree to die for the company, rather than use legal, reasonable means to defend themselves." He went on to describe Pizza Hut's actions as "clear discrimination against those who choose to lawfully exercise a legal, heavily regulated right."

    Whitham also wrote to Pizza Hut, saying: "I don't spend my money with businesses that openly discriminate against people such as myself who understand that the police have no affirmative duty to protect any particular citizen and that no company is worth dying for--particularly yours."

    Well said Mr. Whitham!

    I am not aware of any law that allows the United States Constitution to be suspended, upon one's acceptance by any employer. I imagine that Pizza Hut has chosen to 'ban' their employees from arming themselves because of insurance reasons. Or perhaps, Pizza Hut has deemed it politically-incorrect for an employee to defend his or herself. To date, they have given no reason for their seemingly ridiculous decision.

    According to the National Rifle Association, firearms are used over two million times a year for personal protection. The fact is that armed citizens prevent crime. Period.

    Personally, as long as I am alive--I will choose to defend myself and my family. Every American citizen has that same right. Furthermore, I will also choose not to spend another cent of my hard-earned money at Pizza Hut. Anyone who values innocent life as well as the wishes of our founding fathers...Will do the same.

    After completing two years at Tidewater Community College, Dave Gibson became a Virginia Beach Deputy Sheriff. He has since left the department and now owns a small business in the city of Chesapeake, Virginia. An active volunteer in many animal organizations, he has worked at the Virginia Zoo, the Norfolk SPCA, and currently works for the K-9 New Life Center based in Virginia Beach.

    To log your complaints to Pizza Hut, here is their website: http://www.pizzahut.com/contact/
  2. Augustwest

    Augustwest Member

    Jan 23, 2003
    Southern New England
    I certainly don't support Pizza Hut's helpless herd mentality, and won't be patronizing their restaurants, but :

    Doesn't help "the cause" at all. BoR gots nothin' to do with with what the conditions of one's employment are.
  3. txgho1911

    txgho1911 Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    I have asked

    One driver for PH. Life is the higher priority for delivery drivers. Don't believe for a moment that PH drivers are not packing.
  4. JPL

    JPL Member

    Apr 3, 2004
    They don't value good taste, either.

    I'd have to be starving to eat anything from Pizza Hut.
  5. Henry Bowman

    Henry Bowman Senior Member

    Dec 30, 2002
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    I like Pizza Hut pizza. And Dominoes is my favorite home delivery pizza. (No flames, please.) But since Dominoes instituted the same policy 7 or 8 years ago, I have not ordered or eaten any of their food.

    To some extent, I can sympathize with their plight. Many of their drivers are young and low paid. But at least they could go to a "don't ask, don't tell, don't do anything illegal" policy.
  6. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Dec 24, 2002
    Idahohoho, the jolliest state
    Worthy employers respect our civil rights. Just because they can legally get away with trampling on them doesn't mean it's right.
  7. boltaction

    boltaction Member

    Jul 3, 2003
    Police State of Maryland
    I went to the Pizza Hut web site this morning and wrote them a scathing comment in their "comment section". I said I would never buy a product from a company that violates the basic human rights of its workers. I also told them that I thought they were uncivilized, and that I was shocked and utterly disgusted. Let 'em have it folks.

  8. obiwan1

    obiwan1 Member

    May 21, 2003
    Miami, Fl.
    I'd rather be alive and unemployed than a dead company man!:D
  9. Double Naught Spy

    Double Naught Spy Sus Venator

    Dec 24, 2002
    Forestburg, Texas
    Pizza Hut may not value life, but it is not because of their no guns policy, just the greasy food.

    The notion that Pizza Hut does not allow employees to defend themselves is completely wrong! Pizza Hut does not allow employees to carry guns.

    One should not fault Pizza Hut for Ronald Honeycutt's decision to work for a company that would not allow him to carry. He took the job and kept the job knowing that carrying a gun was against policy and so his dismissal should be of no surprise. He understood the stakes when he carried. So why all the tears for him?

    Contrary to what Rick Whitham says, Pizza Hut is not telling its employees they must agree to die for the company. The company set the rules and the people who took the job agreed to the conditions of employment. Following Whitham's illogical reasoning, it would be more appropriate to note that the employees are voluntarily agreeing to die for the company! It isn't good reasoning, but that is more appropriately what is being described by Whitham because the employees are not being forced by Pizza Hut to take the jobs. They do it of their own free will.

    We are all pro gun here and none of us think such company policies are a good idea, but companies, like individuals, have rights. When a person agrees to take a job with a company such as Pizza Hut, they are agreeing to the conditions of employment. When those are broken, the employee may get disciplined or fired. They know that as well.

    I think Ronald Honeycutt is a hero and I think Pizza Hut makes crappy pizza and has crappy employment rules, but Honeycutt agreed to those rules as a matter of employment as so now he is without a job because he broke the rules. What is the big deal? People get fired all the time for breaking rules.
  10. Baba Louie

    Baba Louie Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    They value the almighty dollar and like any corporate entity would hate to give some up in a no-win lawsuit by condoning self defense of their staff. You know that, I know that and bad guys who would rob a pizza guy of his pie and his $20 in change/tips knows that; and should said pizza delivery man actually use a CCW to defend his life whilst employed by Pepsi Cola owned Pizza Hut, the family of the deceased "Victim", or specifically, the Law Firm representing the family of the deceased or wounded "Victim" by armed pizza delivery man knows where the deep pockets are... Hence the policy... Better to die making minimum wage + tips than force stockholders to lose any money; but then again, one know's that going into that line of work. Or one should. Same with Southland owned 7-11's, etc.

    Heaven forbid you refuse to go into certain neighborhoods for fear of delivering pizza's into the hands of potential bad guys. Why, you're then violating their civil rights or something and that's worth a buck or two to the Rainbow Coalition.

    Unless you're a Ronald Honeycutt kind of pizza delivery man. Then you're just unemployed... and alive.
  11. only1asterisk

    only1asterisk member

    Jun 13, 2003
    Double Naught Spy,

    You are exactly right, Pizza Hut has a right to employee whomsoever they will. If I don't like their corporate policy (and I don't) I have the right not to do business with them (and I won't).

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