Please! Join the NRA!

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I've probably said this before, but I'm going to keep plugging away at getting members until we are assured that BHO doesnt screw with our rights as gun owners. If you are already a member, super! Make the effort today to get one person to join, just one. Hell, Christmas is coming, give a gift of membership.

Email this link to all your friends and ask them to join. Through our status as a recruiter, we can offer a one year membership for $25. That's a savings of $10. Its $2 a month folks. That easily covers the magazine that you get and there's so many other benefits....insurance for your guns, discounts, the NRA hat -

http://membership.nrahq.org/default.asp?campaignid=XP019625
 
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life member here at age 22, getting my grand father, brother, and father in for sure, hope for my wife and some of her family. they all used to be anti-gun.
 
Its funny...as I finished this post, I remembered that it was my buddy's birthday this week and I know that he let his membership lapse. Guess what he just got as a gift!
 
+2 the NRA is for gun owners, period.

The minute they actually support NFA owners, I'm all in.

"We`ve never advocated fully automatic machine guns" is still official policy as of last year.

Don't get me wrong, I can applaud their shooter education stuff and support of local ranges, but the shaft we got in 1934 was largely with the NRA's urging and approval in testimony before Congress. '68 was a protectionist measure for their biggest constituents, manufacturers, not owners, and well, FOPA '86 was just sad in that they signed away every Joe's ability to purchase new automatics forever.

I will not support the NRA in my lifetime with their 'screw you NFA people' attitudes, honestly.
 
Proshooter,
Thanks for posting this up again. I have read your posts multiple times. Today I finally had my credit card on me when I read it and renued my membership!
Thanks!
 
The minute they actually support NFA owners, I'm all in.

"We`ve never advocated fully automatic machine guns" is still official policy as of last year.

Don't get me wrong, I can applaud their shooter education stuff and support of local ranges, but the shaft we got in 1934 was largely with the NRA's urging and approval in testimony before Congress. '68 was a protectionist measure for their biggest constituents, manufacturers, not owners, and well, FOPA '86 was just sad in that they signed away every Joe's ability to purchase new automatics forever.

I will not support the NRA in my lifetime with their 'screw you NFA people' attitudes, honestly.
1934, 1968, and 1986 were all a long time ago. Get over it and get on with your life. I don't think the NRA is perfect either. i also think there is a lot to be said for supporting the organization. While imperfect, they have helped a lot of people regain some of their lost 2A rights. Its not remotely close to 100%, but its a start.

If the NRA started an NFA push, it would be an expensive distraction to the current push which is just to allow LACs to merely own firearms.

If you think the NRA has the capability to undo the onerous sections of the NFA, GCA, or FOPA, you are just plain wrong. No reason to beat yourself bloody over a currently unattainable goal.

I think we all agree the NRA was fooled into believing the NFA was relatively benign and necessary. They were wrong, and we have all paid for that since. For those of you who may have forgotten, the original NFA included all handguns. It could have been much worse.

We need to focus on these two areas:

- mere possession. there are still places you cannot even have a firearm.
- carry. no good having one if it is locked up when you need it.

after those issues are well on the road to being dealt with, the auxiliary issues can be dealt with.
 
Proshooter,
Thanks for posting this up again. I have read your posts multiple times. Today I finally had my credit card on me when I read it and renued my membership!
Thanks!


My pleasure Stover! Dont forget to sign up a friend too. Like I said above, I hadnt even remembered about my best friend's birthday until I checked my calendar. I know that his membership expired so I thought a new membership would be a great gift.
 
1934, 1968, and 1986 were all a long time ago.

So what you're saying is I should support an organization that to this day doesn't support the legal ownership of NFA weapons, that actively campaigned for their banning and restriction, and will do so again.

Get over it and get on with your life. I don't think the NRA is perfect either. i also think there is a lot to be said for supporting the organization.

I could say the same thing about gun rights in Illinois, California, or other states. You've lost, get over it and get on with your life.

But I don't.

While imperfect, they have helped a lot of people regain some of their lost 2A rights. Its not remotely close to 100%, but its a start.

The problem here is NRA worked to actively take away those rights as well.

And they have *never* corrected this egregiously wrong stance.

If the NRA started an NFA push, it would be an expensive distraction to the current push which is just to allow LACs to merely own firearms.

NRA should clean up their mess, starting with actually supporting the rights of people to do so in official statements. That costs nothing in monetary terms.

If you think the NRA has the capability to undo the onerous sections of the NFA, GCA, or FOPA, you are just plain wrong. No reason to beat yourself bloody over a currently unattainable goal.

They had the capacity to lobby effectively for their enactment. They've dug the hole; I'm merely asking them to start by admitting it was wrong and to fill it back in a piece at a time.

I think we all agree the NRA was fooled into believing the NFA was relatively benign and necessary. They were wrong, and we have all paid for that since. For those of you who may have forgotten, the original NFA included all handguns. It could have been much worse.

The thing is that they're still not supporting NFA weapons in ..2007. Not 1934 or 1968 or 1986. If they were 'fooled', then the time has come to admit it.
Support all lawful firearms ownership - or don't expect all lawful firearms owners to support them.

We need to focus on these two areas:

- mere possession. there are still places you cannot even have a firearm.
- carry. no good having one if it is locked up when you need it.

after those issues are well on the road to being dealt with, the auxiliary issues can be dealt with.

Changing a policy plank or admitting that they were wrong is step #1 to get a lot of owners back in the fold. It costs nothing. They don't have to be overzealous about it or spend every waking minute on it.

But I won't support an organization that does not support my right to legally own items that through their course of choice and actions.

Historically, the NRA acts to protect manufacturers before owners, owners of fudd guns before people with evil things, and supported 'reasonable gun control.' Yes, they've gotten 'better' in the last ten years or so, but the first step for the organization is to admit wrongdoing and pledge support for all lawful firearms owners in the United States - including the NFA people they worked so hard to disenfranchise.
 
There are a fair number of people who own NFA items. Perhaps the real answer is for them to form their own group to push for better laws regarding such things.

Look at what VCDL has done with minimal funding. They are on the forefront of trying to push for a narrow slice of gun rights, and are starting to make a difference within the wider gun owning community. Thats where it starts. Opencarry.org comes to mind as another advocacy group making strides with minimal funding.
 
There are a fair number of people who own NFA items. Perhaps the real answer is for them to form their own group to push for better laws regarding such things.

Perhaps, but that's beside the point. The point is that the NRA isn't a concealed-carry lobby group, or a regional grass-roots group, they're a national gun rights group. Call me crazy, but that should include all gun owners, regardless of the style, type, or rate-of-fire involved.
 
I joined this year and will probably be a lifetime member next year. There going to need the money!!!

To fight the controlled DEM-olition of our rights!!
 
1934, 1968, and 1986 were all a long time ago. Get over it and get on with your life.
Wow what a dangerous point of view :eek:.
So what you're saying is I should support an organization that to this day doesn't support the legal ownership of NFA weapons, that actively campaigned for their banning and restriction, and will do so again.
+10,000. rfurtkamp you hit the nail on the head and drove it right through the board and flying out the other side.
they're a national gun rights group. Call me crazy, but that should include all gun owners, regardless of the style, type, or rate-of-fire involved.
Text cannot do justice to the very LOUD "A-MEN" I just yelled.
I think we all agree the NRA was fooled into believing the NFA was relatively benign and necessary. They were wrong, and we have all paid for that since.
I wish we all agreed on that but just look at the comments to see people saying that 1934/1968/1986 was no big deal merely because of the time that has lapsed, and/or who are in total denial about nra's assistance in getting those passed.
Yes, they've gotten 'better' in the last ten years or so, but the first step for the organization is to admit wrongdoing and pledge support for all lawful firearms owners in the United States - including the NFA people they worked so hard to disenfranchise.
+ 1. I'm getting hoarse from yelling "amen" at all these good comments.
Changing a policy plank or admitting that they were wrong is step #1 to get a lot of owners back in the fold. It costs nothing. They don't have to be overzealous about it or spend every waking minute on it.

But I won't support an organization that does not support my right to legally own items that through their course of choice and actions.
These awesomely true comments need to be printed and mailed to mr lapierre's office.
The thing is that they're still not supporting NFA weapons in ..2007. Not 1934 or 1968 or 1986. If they were 'fooled', then the time has come to admit it.
Support all lawful firearms ownership - or don't expect all lawful firearms owners to support them.
+1
They had the capacity to lobby effectively for their enactment. They've dug the hole; I'm merely asking them to start by admitting it was wrong
There is so much here that the nra apologists just avoid. They avoid it like it's not there. It is maddening.
 
For all the Nae sayers look at all the different funds they offer http://www.nra.org/ click on EXPLORE THE NRA count them 23, Political victory fund, Civil Rights Defense fund, Support the Troops, NRA-ILA,Guns and Hunting, and More. They are a big voice for alot of your rights. Imagine what they could do If all gun owners were a member. I cant wait for a NRA Crime Prevention Fund!! Do you think The Brady Camp is going to try to prevent crime? 7:00 PM Mountain Time at http://www.nra.org/ Listen to Cam and Company You can see for your self.
 
I'm actually considering buying my two Jack Russells a life membership next.

I'm already a life member. So's my wife.

And my Dad. And my Mother. And my Sister And my Brother-in-Law. And my Father-in-Law. And my Mother-in-Law. And my Sister-in-Law. And my other Brother-in-Law. And both my Nephews are members. And my Niece is a member.

And my late-granfather was a life member.

So, until Jenn and I have kids, all I have left is the pups.


-- John
 
I'm actually considering buying my two Jack Russells a life membership next.

I'm already a life member. So's my wife.

And my Dad. And my Mother. And my Sister And my Brother-in-Law. And my Father-in-Law. And my Mother-in-Law. And my Sister-in-Law. And my other Brother-in-Law. And both my Nephews are members. And my Niece is a member.

And my late-granfather was a life member.

So, until Jenn and I have kids, all I have left is the pups.


-- John
Hey if you want to help pay lapierre's massive salary by doing that then fine. I'm always amazed at people like you who keep buying nra memberships for everyone in their family without realizing the most important point: if gun owners don't have the motivation to join the nra then there is either something wrong with the nra or with 90 million gun owners. You buying your dog a membership doesn't change that fact. Saving the 2nd amendment will come down to motivation. Right now it appears that you are motivated to give piles of money to an organization that the vast majority of gun owners want NOTHING to do with. I'll also bet that you will waste no time saying that the problem is with 90 million gun owners because there CAN'T possibly be anything wrong with the nra (by the way I love how you avoided all the great comments in this thread which highlighted nra's support for gun control).
 
Too bad the second amendment can't be protected by whining about the NRA in online chat groups.

But I guess we each contribute according to our abilities.
 
Too bad the second amendment can't be protected by whining about the NRA in online chat groups.
Too bad you don't accurately portray what has been said. Reminding people of history is not "whining," unless you want that history forgotten.

rfurtkamp's post was the best on the subject in a very long time and you avoided every specific he mentioned (very telling).
 
I'll also bet that you will waste no time saying that the problem is with 90 million gun owners because there CAN'T possibly be anything wrong with the nra

...and I'll bet that you have no clue what my motivations are.

Cite one post in my 3,700 plus posts here where I EVER said the NRA was perfect. I am often a critic-- even if I am a member.

Which is why I am also a member of GOA. Which is why I actually speak to my elected officials-- EVEN the democratic one that represents me and is a NRA member who I voted for several times.

Thank you for your "astute" spectulations about ME. You'll get a lot more mileage from asking questions than ad hominem attacks/accusations.


-- John
 
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