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Please Judge My 7 Yard Shooting…(Several Pics)

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by StrikeFire83, Jul 30, 2007.

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  1. StrikeFire83

    StrikeFire83 Member

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    Hey there everybody. I thought on account of the other thread I’d throw my hat in the ring. These targets were shot off hand at 7 yards in fast fire (a little over 1 shot a second) from a Weaver stance. Anyhow, here are the targets. I’ve decided to focus in on 7 yards because it’s the most common self defense range and I want to be as proficient as possible before I move out to 15 yards. Okay, JUDGE AWAY.


    1) Glock 17, 50 shots @ 7 yards

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    2) CZ-75B, 50 shots @ 7 yards

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    3) XD-45 Tactical , 50 shots @ 7 yards (Sadly, I sold this gun) :uhoh:

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    And now the revolver that I love but don't shoot so well.

    4) Ruger SP-101 2 inch, 30 shots @ 7 yards

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    Okay, well, that's it. Thanks in advance for everyone's input.
     
  2. AndyC

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    Are you right-handed?
     
  3. StrikeFire83

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    Yes. I am right handed. And your appraisal, sir?
     
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    Damn good and way better than I can shoot at this time.

    To cure shooting to the left try moving your trigger finger in just a little bit further and pull straight back.

    Here are some cures to common shooting problems: http://www.degrata.com/pdf/commonshootingerrors.pdf


    I'd say it's almost time to move back a little bit.

    Steve
     
  5. StrikeFire83

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    Thanks for the input. I think I'm about to give up on revolver shooting though. :)
     
  6. finalcut

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    Awesome.
    I'd say you're a bad person for a BG to get in to a gun fight with.
    Keep it up.
     
  7. bluto

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    Well done. Time to move that target out to 15 yards.
     
  8. usp9

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    Good shooting but, head shots are for Hollywood...center of mass, center of mass.., resist the temptation, concentrate, center of mass.
     
  9. gtmtnbiker98

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    Your G17 and CZ75 grouping can "probably" be improved (centered up) with some dry fire practice and a little more trigger finger. Concentrate on placing just the center portion of the first pad of your index finger on that bang switch. You group well but you are not center mass. You are a good shot, definitely with that XD! As for the SP101, well you already answered for yourself on that one. I only hope that the head shots were intended and not from trigger pull.

    21-feet is a good combat distance, now try moving back to 30-feet working all the way back to 45-feet and if you can hit that consistent from 15-yards then you are in there. You're a good shot, just need some refinement.

    It took me a few years to become proficient in pistol shooting and have yet to master it but I shoot a lot of IDPA to assist in my trek towards mastery.
     
  10. rantingredneck

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    I wouldn't want you shooting at me!

    As others have said: More practice with the revolver (very different trigger than the Glock or XD. More triggerfinger to line up COM.
     
  11. FuzzyBunny

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    I agree, time to move the target back and repost.

    Your errors will be more defined and clear. Accurate first and speed later.

    Nice shooting though!

    When you can do that at 100 yds you may progress to the "snatch the pebble from my hand" phase.


    FuzzyBunny

    BTW: that looks like the groups my mini 14 gets at 3 yards.
     
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    " head shots are for Hollywood" don't agree,as Jeff Cooper taught,2 in the chest and 2 in the head. to much body armor out there these days. jwr
     
  13. GRIZ22

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    These targets were shot off hand at 7 yards in fast fire (a little over 1 shot a second) from a Weaver stance.

    To really see how you shoot take your time don't "1 rd a second". Speed will come over time. Concentrate on your technique not speed.
     
  14. AndyC

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    Decent shooting for that sort of speed - I think you'll do well ;)

    Reason I asked about the right-hand is because - assuming your sights are set correctly - you're doing what I used to do when shooting fast, and that is a very slight nudge against the right-hand edge of the trigger, pushing the shots slightly left. It's not really a big deal, but it starts to count if you need to pop off a quick yet accurate shot at a futher distance.

    Try it with an unloaded pistol - look down on it from above and see if the muzzle is being tapped to the left as you tap the trigger. You have to get your trigger-finger onto the face of the trigger so that it's being pulled straight back, not at an angle.
     
  15. MrBorland

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    For defensive shooting, I agree with others - those are certainly fine groups and I wouldn't want to be the BG!

    If you're wanting opinions as to how good a shot you are in general, though, I'd have to agree with Grizz22 and suggest you shoot 10-shot groups slowly and deliberately, using a bullseye target. Your 50-shot groups look to be around 3-4", maybe bigger. They look nice and tight because 50 rounds eventually blew a hole through the large center, but a 10-shot group of the same size wouldn't look nearly as nice. IMO, a good shot, using iron sights, shooting offhand and deliberately, ought to be able to shoot a sub-1" group at 7yds, and 3-3.5" at 25yds. Even better if you can do it shooting DA with your revolver!
     
  16. AndyC

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    Use a target-patch - those little round stickers about an inch in diameter - and see if you can hit it dead-centre at 7 yards without breaking the outer-edge ;)
     
  17. michiganfan

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    Nice shooting. Me on a good day.
     
  18. Mad Magyar

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    I'm sure the BG got the message....Being a point-shooter for defensive purposes, I get criticized all the time for not having the super-tight pattern...
    Nice going.....:)
     
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    Good shooting, and keep practising those head shots, you don't always get a center of mass to shoot at.
     
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    Nice. Slow down a bit and I'm betting you could put all 30 in the black with the SP-101.

    Of course, in a SD situation there's no opportunity to slow down -- but even under those circumstances I wouldn't want to be the guy looking at the end of your muzzle.
     
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    Yep, he's dead Great shooting!!!!
     
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    re: trigger finger - I seem to pull left more when I have too much trigger finger (too far in toward the knuckle) rather than too little (as others have suggested moving your finger in) - try both ways, it may depend on how big your paws are.
     
  23. StrikeFire83

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    Thanks to everyone for their input. I think I'll move back to 15 yards in a couple months.

    I left the Ruger revolver in Texas, though. Couldn't bring myself to bring along a gun I cannot shot well with ammo that costs a whole lot more.

    It'll just stay with my dad for the time being.
     
  24. pbonebright

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    +1 wooderson

    BTW nice shooting

    If your trigger has much travel after the release, your groups may tend to the opposite side of where your trigger finger is pulling. i.e. your shots are going slightly left, your trigger finger may be tugging the gun right and when it releases it snaps left as the bullet leaves the barrel. Adjustable or 'White' trigger stop may help, or adjust your finger position on the trigger.
     
  25. MinnMooney

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    That appears to be some pretty good shootin'. I'm going to try the same thing tomorrow at 7, 15 and 25 yds. except I'll only be punching about 10 holes per gun per distance. That's expensive enough for me.
    The guns will be a Kahr P9, SA-XD 45 Tactical, Ruger GP-100, Charter Arms 'Undercover' & an old - but little used - 8 shot wheel gun in .22 rimfire.
    I'll post the results no matter how bad I do.
     
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