Please recommend a .308 rifle or carbine

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Hi, Can any of you recommend a .308 semi-automatic or lever action (if there is such a thing as a lever action .308) rifle or carbine. I'm looking for something that can hold several rounds, but I'm not looking for a bolt action. Physical reasons with the hands. Thanks
 
Browning BAR(semi-auto) or BLR(Lever Action) if you are looking mostly for a hunting type weapon.

M1A, FAL, AR10 or Saiga if looking for a more military type weapon.

Steve
 
I'm liking the Browning semi-automatic. Do any of you know if they have any mags in higher capacities?
 
If it's for hunting, a Remington or Browning .308 simi-auto. For fighting a FAL or M1A.

I sure wish Remington would make their Police .308 patrol carbine (which is a pump) a simi-auto, 18 inch barrel (16 is just to short for that .308!), a Remington 10 shot mag, and options for a good scope.
 
The unfortunate part about both the BAR and the Remington is that they are not particularly accurate - but probably adequate for typical hunting. I am unaware of any mags for the BAR that hold more than 4 rounds
 
Guntech wrote:

The unfortunate part about both the BAR and the Remington is that they are not particularly accurate - but probably adequate for typical hunting.


Probably correct in comparision to plenty of rifles. However, as mentioned, the Remingtion 7400 will suffice for most hunting applications. On average, my father has killed 2-3 deer a year for the last 15 years or so with a Remington 7400 or its predecessor- the Remingtion 742. The shots have been between 75 yards (closest) and 200 yards (furtherest) using 30-06 Remington Core-Lokt 180 grain (he swears by that round for some reason).

Frankly, I've never cared for the Remington 7400 or 742. I can't put my finger on why, but it just never felt right to me. Still, he seems to like it.


-- John
 
The unfortunate part about both the BAR and the Remington is that they are not particularly accurate
I disagree.

My new BAR groups eight tenths of an inch: 0.8 inch @ 100yds. That's the best factory load so far, it would probably do even better if I decide to hand load it. It is .243 Winchester, a derivative of .308 Winchester.

I once had a BLR in .308, a fellow at the company told me their standard for the BLR leaving the factory was 1.5 inches or better @ 100 yds. Mine shot better than that.

Although the civilian BAR doesn't disassemble with the ease of a military rifle, I have never been unhappy with the accuracy or reliability of any Browning.

Larry
 
There are always exceptions.

The 3 BARs I owned would all shoot about 2-3 MOA. This is typica and realistic hunting rifle performance. You got a good one. Don't ever sell it. It shoots as well as my match grade M1A with hand loads.

I has been my experience that accuracy in rifles, particularly commercial models is overstated. Reviewers often shoot only 3 rounds, and even discount 'flyers'. When I say 1 MOA, I mean that said rifle will put 5-10 rounds into a 1.042 group center to center every time, any time any where.

I shoot at least once a week weather allowing. In my experience, there are very few 1 MOA rifles according to the above criteria. Even fewer commercial ones.
 
I'd also agree with the M1A. It's a gerat gun I have one and will get another. Both SA Loaded models.

If you are looking for a bolt action I'd get a Remington 700.

I can shoot tight groups 400-500 yards with both.
 
Enter_Narne said:
I'm liking the Browning semi-automatic. Do any of you know if they have any mags in higher capacities?

A Browning factory rep told me that FN is testing a higher capacity magazine for the BAR. It will require removing the magazine floorplate. I wouldn't (and didn't) base a purchase on the information though.

My informal research showed that most BAR owners are pleased with its accuracy but if you want even more, you can get it with BOSS. My BAR is a LightWeight Stalker without BOSS yet it still shoots marginally better than the 1 MOA of my .338 A-Bolt.

Also, I understand the regular design BAR is more durable than the ShortTrac & LongTrac models.

Larry
 
H&K used to make an odd looking sporter semi in .308. A shop I frequent in Manitowoc, WI has one languishing on the rack. It has been collecting dust for at least two years now. It is a neat looking little sucker though.
 
Saiga 308-1. It'll do both hunting and defense very well. Often 2 moa accurate or better. (rarely worse). But, AK reliability and above par accuracy. Mine was $500 brand new and it got 4 mags (because of my request for spares)
 
Saiga 308 is a nice reliable auto for a good price. I had a new 7400 and could never get it to function correctly.
 
My dad has a BAR Safari with a Leupold 3.5-10x scope on it in .270 Winchester. Last year in Northern Minnesota he shot a running doe at 179 yards (he had a rangefinder).

It is a very nice rifle. Almost as fun to fire as my M1A. The fit and finish is superb, and it has never jammed.

I think it would be really awesome to adapt it to take M1A, FAL, Japanese Type 64 (just kidding), or G3 mags. Or at least to have a fixed 20 round magazine (a la one of the lawman who had a Remington Model 8 converted to have a 20 round fixed magazine that shot at Bonnie and Clyde).
 
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