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I'm not new to handguns...but new to rifles... so please educate me...

1. A carbine is a rifle that fires handgun ammo...correct?

2. Can you recommend a super reliable, rugged, almost indestructable 9mm carbine? (So I can interchange ammo with my 9mm handgun.)

"I need something that will go "bang" 99.9999% of the time, without having to babying the darn thing." (I do plan on cleaning it after every range session...but I want something almost fool-proof." And no...it doesn't have to be tacti-cool. In fact, the more old-fashion rifle look..the better. (So not to scare the antis. )

3. I'm thinking of home self-defense role...and/or self-defense role in my ranch?

4. It can be lever action or semi action.
 
i know you said "more old-fashion rifle look..the better", but i'm gonna mention sub-2000. it's on my short list... looks like a lot of fun.
 
1. A carbine is a rifle that fires handgun ammo...correct?
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Not necessarily, The term carbine refers to a rifle with a shorter barrel, generally considered less than 20" . Most handgun ammo firing rifles are carbines but not all, and of course you can have carbines that fire rifle ammunition

2. Can you recommend a super reliable, rugged, almost indestructable 9mm carbine? (So I can interchange ammo with my 9mm handgun.)
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Just about any of the current offerings will suffice

4. It can be lever action or semi action.
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Not if it has to be a 9mm which limits you to a semiautomatic
 
yes, the 9mm 'carbines' (the only 'rifles' in 9mm) are 99% semi-auto.
good reason too - most of them can interchange magazines with some popular 9mm pistols.
quite handy 'home-defense' guns. actually handy 'outside the home too'.
 
Is it correct that rimless cartridges cannot be fed lever action?
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No, but it is less common...that said I am not aware of a 9mm lever rifle. :)

I am dead wrong, the 9mm is .357in....and there are .38SP, and .357Mag lever action rifles...and they are a blast to shoot...well you didn't say which 9mm. :D
 
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Another vote for the Sub-2000. I love having the ability to interchange both ammo, and mags with my Glocks. It is uber reliable, simple, rugged, and it folds in half.
 
9mm carbine? Gonna most likely be semiauto. Like the others said Keltec Sub2k, Hippoints (fugly but gets the job done) and of course the obscure Calico with it's hundred round helixical mag drum! Of course there are always 9mm AR's too.
 
I have to vote for the Hi-Point. While you are limited to mags (factory only as the aftermarket ones are no good), you cannot find anything simpler that the HP. You'll hear plenty of people bash the HP due to the mags and/or the "cheapness" of the stock but customer service is the best out there and it'll eat anything you can find to feed it. They are very accurate too.
 
I currently own a KelTec sub 2000 in 9mm that uses GLOCK magazines. It has been a wonderful weapon for my purposes since 2002. It did need one factory warranty repair for a pin failure that had not been heat treated. After that fix it has been 100%. I currently use it for the occasional three gun match as well as a travel carbine folded up in the trunk. It fits the top compartment of my Tenba camera bag like it was not there for the ultimate in long gun conceal carry. At home it sometimes does the duty by the bedside. It is NOT a traditional looking rifle by any stretch but easily available. Mine is the last longarm I would give up if I run into some financial hardship. They are currently available and can be had in several different magazine options. I was thinking of another in the Beretta 92 Magazine flavor.

I have owned the Marlin Camp Carbine in 9mm. It too was a wonderful little rifle for fun and games. Mine was compatable with S&W pistol magazines and was a companion to my S&W Model 59 some years ago. It is much more "traditional" in looks but can be a beast to find these days.

The Ruger PC9 is a more recent adaptation of the Marlin concept and marketed to Law Enforcement as an option for a long gun in the car. Especially if the agency was armed with Ruger 9mm pistols where the magazines could interchange. Those also will be hard to find but are out there.

The Beretta Cx4 Carbine in 9mm is another option. Sort of "Star Wars" in look and very reliable. Very popular for owners of various Beretta pistols. They use several different magazines from the Beretta line of pistols.

My last option is one of the 9mm AR15 carbines. Cheap ammo, easily found, an excellent option to train with instead of the 5.56 caliber weapons but not "conventional" in appearance unless you (like me) consider AR to mean "America's Rifle". Hell put it in their face a little bit and buy an EBR! :D

(EBR...Evil Black Rifle)
 
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No, but it is less common...that said I am not aware of a 9mm lever rifle. :)

I am dead wrong, the 9mm is .357in....and there are .38SP, and .357Mag lever action rifles...and they are a blast to shoot...well you didn't say which 9mm. :D
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9mm is in fact NOT .357"

9mm shoots .355" bullets FWIW
 
If you want reliable then the Beretta Cx4 hands down.

Last week I put 400 rounds of Brown Bear 9mm through my Cx4 in one sitting and not a single issue.

Besides being incredibly reliable it is also incredibly accurate, I was making very good groups at 100 yards with an Aimpoint and at 50 yards I was making one hole groups. It points naturally and the fact that it's a thumbhole stock really doesn't bother this user at all. It is a very easy gun to maintain its also comfortable to hold and shoot and solid as a rock. The ergonomics make it a great all around home defense carbine and it eats any ammo brand you feed it including the defensive loads without issue. Another perk is that you can buy a Px4 in 9mm and interchange the mags between that and the carbine.

Here's mine with my 92FS.....
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Based on what you said I'll go with the Hi Point, as usual. The bang for the buck is as good as it gets, accuracy is nearly as good as you'll find, and reliability doesn't go above 100% so you can't beat the HP for reliability. It will also be handier for dirty jobs (shooting in the rain/mud etc) since you won't be worried about your "precious baby" like if you'd paid $500.
 
I have a KT Sun2k in .40 and cant say enough about what an uber reliable and accurate (out to 75-100 yards) handy little rifle it is!

Recently, I have been tempted to pick up a hi point 995TS to add to my collection. I dont think you can go wrond with either.
 
Krochus, you would argue about anything wouldn't you? Two thousands of an inch...it is the same for all intents and purposes...hell 9mm is really 0.3543307078 in., so your wrong too and it doesn't matter how you round...your still wrong.

FWIW the Cx4 is a great little carbine, accurate, reliable, inexpensive, and fun to shoot...what more could you ask for? :)
 
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Krochus, you would argue about anything wouldn't you? Two thousands of an inch...it is the same for all intents and purposes...hell 9mm is really 0.3543307078 in., so your wrong too and it doesn't matter how you round...your still wrong.

FWIW the Cx4 is a great little carbine, accurate, reliable, inexpensive, and fun to shoot...what more could you ask for? :)
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Well I'm sorry if you're upset because you get called on all the outright misinformation you like to throw out there. If I'm wrong now what were you when you said 9mm was a .357"?

9x19mm bullets are .355"
9x57mm bullets are .356
.38 caliber bullets are .357"
.35 caliber bullets are .358"
and weirdest of all 9mm makarov or 9x18mm bullets are .365"

Only .002? Why you should see how much heat that generates in discussions about 7.62x39mm
 
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I'm not new to handguns...but new to rifles... so please educate me...

1. A carbine is a rifle that fires handgun ammo...correct?
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Not exactly. A carbine generally describes a shorter or smaller version of a full size rifle. For example, an M4 is a carbine. It's counterpart, the M16 is a rifle.

2. Can you recommend a super reliable, rugged, almost indestructable 9mm carbine? (So I can interchange ammo with my 9mm handgun.)

"I need something that will go "bang" 99.9999% of the time, without having to babying the darn thing." (I do plan on cleaning it after every range session...but I want something almost fool-proof." And no...it doesn't have to be tacti-cool. In fact, the more old-fashion rifle look..the better. (So not to scare the antis. )
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Hi-Points and the Kel-Tec Sub2k are both two great options. Another great thing about Sub2000's is that they share mags with your handguns. Be it Glock, Sig, S&W, and Beretta.

3. I'm thinking of home self-defense role...and/or self-defense role in my ranch?

4. It can be lever action or semi action.
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Semi would be a good choice for self defence, and just for casual plinking. At least I feel that way.
 
I would put my KelTec Sub2000 up against any other 9mm carbine out there. With Glock 18 magazines, that's 31 rounds of hurting waiting to be dished out. Mine has the KT folding scope mount with a shotgun scope on it- folded up, the rifle & a stack of mags all fit into a smallish gym bag. Not what you would think of as holding a long gun. It's like a magic trick- watch me pull a scoped rifle out of my gym bag.
 
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