Please vote for one.....

[dh1633pm]

I have a P365. No safety. Safety, no safety, that’s for some other thread. The P365 is an excellent pistol. Fits nice and shoots well. It’s what I choose.

 

[WYO]

It will make a hole, it may even make several, but I have serious doubts of it causing a fast stop on a determined attacker without a CNS hit.

I feel that way about any handgun round. The issue with the .380 is to find the round that can reach and sufficiently damage the CNS. That is more complicated than with duty calibers.

 

[SwampWolf]

I much prefer having a manual safety on any typical striker-fired pistol. I wouldn't carry one without it (so no Glocks and its ilk for me). Each to their own.

 

[tactikel]

The .380 with modern SD ammunition is indeed adequate. I carry my LCP with Lehigh Defense 68 gr. I like both the Sig and the Glock, have shot both. I like the Ruger better. So my vote is for none of the above.

 

[entropy]

I can't vote in the poll. If I were getting a Glock or P365, it'd be in 9mm. However, I don't believe .380 is inadequate; as low as I'd go is a better description.
And I do carry a .380 all the time, a Taurus TCP 738. I carry my 9mm when going out, but the .380 is on me except in bed, where other options are available.

 

[jmr40]

I voted Sig. Mostly because I like the option of it having a safety. I didn't vote #3 because I don't think 380 is useless. But I don't see any downside to choosing a 365 in 9mm or a G43 in 9mm over the 380 options.
IMO the Sig 365 and G42 are just bigger than needed for 380. I have a 380 and carry it when appropriate. But mine is a much smaller KelTac 3AT.

 

[Hokkmike]

Thanks for your input. MY DECISION.

I was able to purchase a new P-365 in 9mm with a safety at a very good price. I noted that the ammo was cheaper by quite a bit as well. Kudos to the owner and assistant at the gun store who were first very friendly then knowledgable about the whole thing. They talked to me, like all of you, about what they thought I needed as opposed to what they wanted to sell.

 

[Brubz]

I would like to get Highroad consensus on the purchase of a .380 pistol.

As well intended as your other suggestions might be please select one of the 3 choices first, then feel free to add commentary. There is wisdom in collective gun thought here.

And I THANK you.....

Those are my only choices ? How about Lcp Max? or S&W Bodyguard ?
That's like asking me to vote on my favorite ice cream and leaving out chocolate and vanilla.

 

[chaim]

Thanks for your input. MY DECISION.

I was able to purchase a new P-365 in 9mm with a safety at a very good price. I noted that the ammo was cheaper by quite a bit as well. Kudos to the owner and assistant at the gun store who were first very friendly then knowledgable about the whole thing. They talked to me, like all of you, about what they thought I needed as opposed to what they wanted to sell.

I had voted the P365 in .380, but only because I don't quite think .380 is useless and I love my P365 in 9mm so much that I bought a second one yesterday. I like .380 in smaller guns (I have an LCP, though it is rare, as in so far never, that I really need to go smaller than my P365 or a J-frame), and it can be fun in a range toy (I had a Bersa Thunder .380 many years ago that I've often thought about replacing just for range use). I also think they can be useful in a locked breech gun (like the P365) for those whose aging hands can no longer handle much recoil. However, I don't find my P365 to be difficult to shoot at all. It is a little snappy with +P, but I usually load it up with regular JHP, not +P, and even with +P it isn't bad, I just don't want to do more than a box or two at the range with +P. I think you made a great choice with your 9mm P365.

 

[jmohme]

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/browning-1911-380-feedback-and-reviews.917375/

 

[WYO]

I had voted the P365 in .380, but only because I don't quite think .380 is useless and I love my P365 in 9mm so much that I bought a second one yesterday. I like .380 in smaller guns (I have an LCP, though it is rare, as in so far never, that I really need to go smaller than my P365 or a J-frame), and it can be fun in a range toy (I had a Bersa Thunder .380 many years ago that I've often thought about replacing just for range use). I also think they can be useful in a locked breech gun (like the P365) for those whose aging hands can no longer handle much recoil. However, I don't find my P365 to be difficult to shoot at all. It is a little snappy with +P, but I usually load it up with regular JHP, not +P, and even with +P it isn't bad, I just don't want to do more than a box or two at the range with +P. I think you made a great choice with your 9mm P365.

I have both the 9mm and .380 versions of the P365. Neither is difficult to shoot. In fact, the opposite is true. They are exceptional for their size. There is a huge difference in split times, though. The 9mm version is a turtle compared to the .380 when you run them against each other on a timer. The difference is more pronounced when you shoot them with carry ammo, and I only shoot standard pressure 124 grain Gold Dots in my 9mm. I also have to shoot the 9mm (which has an RDS, by the way) on a regular basis to stay in shape, but I can pick up the .380 (with open sights) and shoot it handily with minimal practice. (My practice with the 9mm may help with that, though.) It may not matter in a one-on-one confrontation at 3 feet, but it can make a significant difference if it is a two or more-on-one situation or as the distance increases. It is a trade-off that everyone has to evaluate for themselves. The 9mm version is a great choice, but I suggest shooting it a lot and maybe shooting it in BUG division at some IDPA matches. (If you put a RDS on it, you have to shoot Carry Optics and go up against race guns and get slaughtered, if that matters.)

 

[Charlie98]

Thanks for your input. MY DECISION.

I was able to purchase a new P-365 in 9mm with a safety at a very good price. I noted that the ammo was cheaper by quite a bit as well. Kudos to the owner and assistant at the gun store who were first very friendly then knowledgable about the whole thing. They talked to me, like all of you, about what they thought I needed as opposed to what they wanted to sell.

I don't think the .380 is an adequate SD round... unless it's compared to not carrying anything... then it is clearly superior. I used to carry a .380, but for the SAME size and weight, I upgraded to a 9mm.

I'm glad your LGS actually discussed your needs with you... I think you made a far better choice than anything in .380. As an aside, and I think was already mentioned, 9mm ammos is far more plentiful and less expensive than any .380 ammos... and that's good, because if it's your carry piece, you will need to train with it.

 

[doubleh]

I chose the Sig with safety. I used to have the 9mm version but gave it away. It was reasonably pleasant to shoot so the 380 version should be even better.

 

[The Night Rider]

I can't come up with a good reason why I would want a Glock 42 when I can have a Glock 43

 

[redcon1]

I went with the Seecamp when I was in the market for a .380. It seemed to be well suited for its intended purpose. I wouldn't want to get rid of it.

 

[chicharrones]

Thanks for your input. MY DECISION.

I was able to purchase a new P-365 in 9mm with a safety at a very good price. I noted that the ammo was cheaper by quite a bit as well. Kudos to the owner and assistant at the gun store who were first very friendly then knowledgable about the whole thing. They talked to me, like all of you, about what they thought I needed as opposed to what they wanted to sell.

Congrats on making a pick, @Hokkmike .

 

[Buckeye63]

Ruger LCP Max

 

[tercel89]

Of your choices I picked the Glock 42. If I were you I'd wait until next month and try out a Glock 28. They are to finally be released to the USA. The 28 and 25 have been around longer than the Sig and Glock 42. The 28 and 25 have been running fine since the 90's.

 

[herrwalther]

I swore off 380 rounds just a few years ago. The size savings you get by staying with 380 compared to the same or similar gun in 9mm just wasn't worth it in my opinion. Example the Glock 42 and 43 are nearly identical except for cartridge. Why would you carry a 380 when 9mm can be had in nearly the same size handgun? Only 380 I would buy is either a PPK or PPK/S for novelty and nostalgia.

 

[JR24]

I voted 365, but I’d prefer no safety

edit; oh you made your call. Good choice

 

[Hokkmike]

Congrats on making a pick, @Hokkmike .

Thank you. The dealer made it toooooo easy by giving me a great deal. I had intentions of getting the P-365 in .380 but there next to it was the 9... Same price, able to Restock my cache of ammo - why not I figured, step up! Kind of belied my OP a little...

 

[Casefull]

I don’t understand why you were not shoot low power loads in the sig 365 9mm. Same diameter round, same thing.

 

[DDDWho]

Being a complete uninformed novice, for some reason I choose the 9 mm as the smallest I will go for a CCW.

 

[Shipwreck]

Of your choices I picked the Glock 42. If I were you I'd wait until next month and try out a Glock 28. They are to finally be released to the USA. The 28 and 25 have been around longer than the Sig and Glock 42. The 28 and 25 have been running fine since the 90's.

Yes, but the G25 and G28 are blowback. Have you every shot a blowback 380? I had a Beretta 85 years ago, and I thought it kicked more than a 9mm.

 

[JCooperfan1911]

M1 Garand.