Pocket carry- with other stuff in your pocket or otherwise empty pockets

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I know I've read here before that most people say you shouldn't have anything else in your pocket if you pocket carry, and for a while I agreed. I'm starting to think though that it may not be necessary.

If you carry with a holster than covers the trigger you won't have to worry about a AD/ND due to something getting in the trigger guard.

If you fold up a piece of paper or two or use a thin piece of cardboard and use it as a partition you won't have to worry about fumbling through your pocket trying to find your gun. I do this with my defensive folder and pepper spray, putting those in the rear against my leg and my other stuff in front where the other stuff is what prints. It does a good job of separation and if I ever need my knife or OC spray/CS gas (the spray contains both) I shouldn't have trouble getting to it quickly. You could do the same thing with a gun.

With a larger gun it obviously wouldn't work, but if you carry something smaller why not?

Anyway, I started thinking about this after having a chance to carry recently (I can carry when out of state sometimes). I'm used to having a lot in my pockets. When I carried my 21oz Taurus 85CH in my pocket I felt fine. When I used my 15oz S&W 442 I really felt that I was carrying something, I felt different because my pockets weren't weighted down as much as usual. Well, there are times when something even smaller (which might also be even lighter) may be called for and before I'd want to do that I'd probably want to carry with something else in the pocket (a knife, chap stick, cell phone, whatever) to help weigh it down a little, or make the pocket feel more full. Also, people are used to seeing me with a bulge in both pockets, it may be more suspicious if some days I didn't.

So, what do you guys think of carrying a holstered gun in a pocket that also contains some other stuff? What do you make of my idea of a makeshift partition?
 
If the gun is designed for the holster, and the holster is designed for the pocket, I don't see how having other random stuff in there helps.
 
If the gun is designed for the holster, and the holster is designed for the pocket, I don't see how having other random stuff in there helps.

Well, it is less a question of does it help and more does it hurt to have other stuff in my pocket. Is there a reason not to? Of course that is assuming a holster to prevent something from getting in the trigger guard causing the gun to fire, and possibly an improvised divider so I don't have to fumble for the gun amidst the "junk".

For me it could help because:
1) I'm used to having a lot of stuff in my pockets. When I carried those J-frames the heavier one felt better because I'm used to having a lot of stuff in there and it felt more like what I'm used to. When I had the lighter one in there it felt odd since my pocket was lighter than I'm used to, and it was too light to offset the weight of the other pocket to the degree I'm used to.
2) I'm used to carrying a lot of stuff. If I only carry the gun in my pocket I'll have to do without items I'm used to having with me (I believe in the Boy Scout motto- "be prepared" :) ). Otherwise, one option is to further overload my other pocket but I already have a lot in there (my car keys, home keys, some misc keys, work keys, money clip, credit/debit card holder, pen, etc) so it may not fit, and if I load more in there the pocket will be even heavier making my lighter gun pocket even more noticable. A final option is to start carrying a "man purse" but I'm not sure what I think of that idea.
 
Buy a pocket holster that has space for reloads. The extra bullets will help add weight.
 
Is that a Desert Eagle, or are you just happy to see me?

I usually carry my little Seecamp in my front pocket. Even as small as it is I do not put anything in that pocket that could interfere with a draw. Seems to defeat the purpose of having it there, at hand, at the ready. I envision drawing it with my keys, (a handful in itself), a few coins, etc, and not being able to get a grip, or correct finger placement.

Besides I can't imagine a pocket holding all that stuff, plus a gun, and not being somewhat conspicuous, especially considering what some folks call a "pocket gun". A small price to pay for trying to be discrete.
 
USP9 made my point, the draw.

If your pocket has other stuff in it, it'll slow down your draw. I pocket carry all day, every day. If/when I need it, I don't want to have to fumble around trying to sort it from the other items in my pocket.
 
Remember that Murphy is always with us... "If anything can go wrong, it will!"

(Usually at the worst possible time!)

For that reason, I keep things as simple as possible, so as to avoid potential problems. I won't carry anything else in the same pocket as my gun, simply because I don't want to draw down on a bad guy in a hurry and find I'm threatening him with my nail-clippers, or credit cards, or handkerchief, or something like that. If there's only one thing in that pocket, I'll be drawing only one thing out of it, and that's what I want to draw!
 
If you get knocked down, before you can draw, then everything else in your pocket could shift and be in the way of the draw. Common sense is if you pocket carry nothing else should be in the pocket.:what: :cuss: :banghead:
 
I agree that with proper self discipline, you could carry more than one item in a pocket. Every day, you put exactly the same items in each pocket. From the standpoint of safety, O.K.

However my interest lies in very rapid retreival of my gun. If carrying a gun, I do not carry dangerous looking knives or OC. Envision the following:

"Mr. Jay, you say that you had a canister of OC in your pocket. Why didn'tt you take out the gas and spray my client instead of shooting him three times. You did have option, didn't you? Why didn't you spray him and run?
Look at my client sitting in the wheel chair that you have condemned him to for the rest of his life. Why couldn't you have used the pepper spray and alllowed him to walk and dance for the rest of his life."

On a current day jury of 12, there are a bunch of morons that would buy into that argument.
 
Preacherman nailed it. Too many things can go wrong. K.I.S.S. I don't even keep much else in a drawer with a gun, except for ammo and a knife.
 
Mr. Jay, you refused to carry pepper-spray so you could slake your thirst for blood. You purposely did not carry a less-lethal option, just so you could use your handgun on my client -- and you posted this ON THE INTERNET. Did you not?

No further questions.
 
I'm not the only clumsy person around here. I couldn't begin to count the numbers of times that I pulled a phone or a money clip out of my pocket, and then had to pick car keys. Or pulled car keys out of my pocket and then pick my knife up off of the ground. (I know, knife in right pocket, keys in left) Or some combination thereof.

A number of times I had to stop someone so they didn't walk off without the extra things that came out of their pockets.

I wouldn't put anything else in a pocket with a pistol, sooner or later, clumsy me, is going to dump it on the ground at a cash register or in a parking lot.
 
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I pocket carry using this K&D 2n1 holster. Fits in either the side pocket or the rear pocket of my jeans with no problem. If I am carrying concealed it is for a purpose which does not include putting other stuff in there with my carry piece. Priorities?:what:
 
I keep it really simple,only the gun
goes in the pocket.I dont use a holster
either but i do have the outline of the
pistol sewn in the pocket.That way it
stays put without the extra bulk of a
holster.I also carry 1 speed strip in
the other front pocket.
 
Nothing in my right front pocket but my holstered gun. Nothing in in my right hand that can't be thrown.
 
You began this thread with these words:

I know I've read here before that most people say you shouldn't have anything else in your pocket if you pocket carry, and for a while I agreed. I'm starting to think though that it may not be necessary.

As you stated, most people say you shouldn't. Do you think that this will change? If you don't care what most people say, then why ask?

I pocket carry just about every day. I wouldn't dare carry anything other than my holstered weapon in that pocket. But, why do you care? You are going to do what you want.
 
Preacherman said:
If there's only one thing in that pocket, I'll be drawing only one thing out of it, and that's what I want to draw!

I agree 100%. The ONLY way to pocket carry is in a pocket dedicated to your gun or gun w/n a pocket holster.

Safe carryin' & shootin',

fiVe
 
I know I've read here before that most people say you shouldn't have anything else in your pocket if you pocket carry, and for a while I agreed. I'm starting to think though that it may not be necessary.

If you carry with a holster than covers the trigger you won't have to worry about a AD/ND due to something getting in the trigger guard.

I have two pairs of shorts in which I will occassionally drop my P239 in to an empty pocket.

Empty only because there is not any room for much else.
 
You began this thread with these words:

I know I've read here before that most people say you shouldn't have anything else in your pocket if you pocket carry, and for a while I agreed. I'm starting to think though that it may not be necessary.

As you stated, most people say you shouldn't. Do you think that this will change? If you don't care what most people say, then why ask?

I pocket carry just about every day. I wouldn't dare carry anything other than my holstered weapon in that pocket. But, why do you care? You are going to do what you want.

I'm not sure where I did or said anything to earn that kind of semi-hostile response. I certainly didn't say anything in my post to imply my mind was made up. I was going to respond point by point to what you said, but why bother.:banghead:
 
The idea is to have nothing in that pocket but my 642. But... very occasionally I'll find lintballs and kleenex fragments in the barrel. I'm guessing that it would fire ok at need... but it can't be a good thing.
 
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