Police: Clerk "...did just what he should have done..." but still dead

[CMC]

Text deleted. Merely restates verbatim a Florida statute that appears irrelevant to the discussion, with no added thoughts or opinions.

 

[EvilGenius]

Are there any CLUES you might see that would indicate that the bad guy is going to do more than just leave with the money?

Does anyone know of any subtle signs that the bad guy might wantonly shoot a clerk or customers, even after he has got the money and can leave without trouble? I'm not asking about the obvious signs that things are going very bad, like efforts to herd people into a back room.

Has there been any research on this?

- - - Yoda

"If he is already planning to torture and kill, the feared escalation is meaningless, but you can't know his plan at the outset. The choice must be yours, made in an instant and on incomplete information. A fear of provoking a beating or torture or death will not help you if the attacker has already decided on a beating or torture or death." -Rory Miller

The bold text being the kicker (unless they're displaying obvious red flags already discussed). The majority of these situations in which the victim complies end without harm caused to them, but some do not. You can't possibly know what the attacker is thinking or planning. Now I don't think that just instantly drawing and trying to shoot every criminal that presents a lethal threat to you is "macho", but it's certainly not without big risk. But then if the attacker is planning to maim or kill you then it's really the only choice you've got besides waiting around for them to pull the trigger. You can't know and I think that's really the big issue with "self defense" situations is you can throw all the stats and training you want at them and that stuff can help, but in the end a very scary amount of how these situations play out is based on nothing more than luck.

 

[Kleanbore]

This shooting involved the murder of a man who was not armed and whose employer did not permit him to be. For that reason, discussion of when one might properly shoot a robber is really not all that relevant.

A suggestion made in Post #21 was on point--get down and behind something and don't just watch.


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