Police shoot dog while owner was watching?

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TanklessPro

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Hey THR,

I generally take the cops side on most things, but this seems wrong. The video shows a LA cop shooting a dog while they are "questioning" the owner. The dog did lunge at the officers but their were several cops surrounding the owner. I don't remember how many cops where there and I refuse to watch the video again. I can see that maybe justified, but a discharge of a firearm four times on a public street with people watching everywhere?:confused:
Seems to me that is not justified. With all of their options(gazer,baton,pepper spray) this cops first choice was to shoot four times????????:fire:

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So...we're supposed to question and examine the justification for discharging a firearm in a situation we weren't involved in...and we have to find the video for ourselves? :banghead:

What exactly is the point of this thread?
 
TanklessPro said:
Hey THR,

I generally take the cops side on most things, but this seems wrong. The video shows a LA cop shooting a dog while they are "questioning" the owner. The dog did lunge at the officers but their were several cops surrounding the owner. I don't remember how many cops where there and I refuse to watch the video again. I can see that maybe justified, but a discharge of a firearm four times on a public street with people watching everywhere?:confused:
Seems to me that is not justified. With all of their options(gazer,baton,pepper spray) this cops first choice was to shoot four times????????:fire:

I do not want to post the video because it is disturbing. So you can search YT and find it rather easy.

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Ok.
 
If the dog is a threat to your safety? Yes. I'm not going to let a dog maul me or a loved one anymore than I'd let someone stab me or a loved one.
 
The dog owner was looking for trouble and he got it. His dog died due to his own ignorance. The dog was not at all to blame, he died doing what he should have....protecting his owner.
The police were not to blame as human > dog. It should be noted he is suing the police department, obviously. Blame others for your mistakes society at work. Dog lover here BTW.
 
This is a DUMB EXPLETIVE MORON who exposed his dog to his personal stupidity. DO NOT CARE what the charge was. No discussion necessary. I am dog owner and this MORON should have closed the windows to a crack when he put him in the car with reasonable SEMBLANCE of care. Again…MORON.
 
Impureclient said:
The dog owner was looking for trouble and he got it. His dog died due to his own ignorance. The dog was not at all to blame, he died doing what he should have....protecting his owner.
The police were not to blame as human > dog. It should be noted he is suing the police department, obviously. Blame others for your mistakes society at work. Dog lover here BTW.
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I agree that the owner made some mistakes but my main question is in post #6
 
REALLY? If a dog is a threat?? That bad boy will SHRED you if you are a threat to its owner. Badges and uniforms mean ZERO to a Rot whose owner is being cuffed. Please. My dog would do the same and he is not protection trained. YOUR dog is YOUR responsibility.
 
Not sure why the police thought they needed to detain the guy. Seems like both were at fault. The idiot should not have been following the police around to film them, it is clear that quite a few were already doing that. At the same time the police should have just told him to move along, not try to detain him.

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Impureclient said:
The dog owner was looking for trouble and he got it. His dog died due to his own ignorance. The dog was not at all to blame, he died doing what he should have....protecting his owner.
The police were not to blame as human > dog. It should be noted he is suing the police department, obviously. Blame others for your mistakes society at work. Dog lover here BTW.
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Amen brother. That ass---- deserves it - not only for his own ignorance but for exposing his dog to injury and death. No compassion.
 
Picture yourself as the officer in that uniform. Dog bite from a huge aggressive dog or shooting dog.

A while back, my 60 lb. dog jumped against my open door and hit the screen door lock just right to unlock it. He tore out and started circling and barking at a young 20 something fellow, his girlfriend/wife and their small child. He immediately raised the kid up and I ran over and said my dog wouldn't bite. He isn't human aggressive at all but for some reason he didn't like this guy at all. If that guy had pulled out a gun and put my dog down, I would have been OK with that as I put myself in that guy's shoes. I apologized profusely for my dog charging them, picked him up and brought him inside. My son asked what happened and I told him we almost lost our dog. Here is the learning point of the story: It was all my fault as I had left the front door open and just that flimsy locked screen door shut to keep my dog in. This was just as public as the video here is and I wouldn't have faulted the guy if he ended my dog right there in the street as human lives are more precious than a dog any day.
 
Akita1 said:
REALLY? If a dog is a threat?? That bad boy will SHRED you if you are a threat to its owner. Badges and uniforms mean ZERO to a Rot whose owner is being cuffed. Please. My dog would do the same and he is not protection trained. YOUR dog is YOUR responsibility.
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IMO, a single domesticated dog of any breed, except a Dogo which is not really tame, is a not threat to any adult male. And that dog was no Dogo. Wild dogs YES, but not that dog. With all the time the cop had and he chose a gun over all other options?

SAD
 
The dog wasn't that agressive. It clearly had it's collar and leash still on that the cop moves to grab... with his other hand on his gun. If it's time to bring out the gun you don't have your bloody hand out! The dog doesn't even do the lunge until the cop unsuccessfully tries to grab the collar/leash, it stands a few feet off.

Stupidity on both sides. Guy could have secured the dog, and the cops could have handled it differently at multiple points. It's a shame the animal died over a mishandled situation.
 
Wasn't the guy detained for filming the police? Which (I think) is entirely legal?

So, if he was wrongfully detained or, if anyone is wrongfully detained and animals are killed, what happens to the police officer(s)? Nothing?

I don't like that.
 
Anybody notice the loud music bad dog owner was playing? Kind of hard to miss but the rest of the normal people standing back even mention it. He was arrested for obstruction for a reason. He was doing everything in his power short of running up to the action to get involved.
 
Dont mess around when cops are doing official duty. And if your dog attack, then good bye mama.
 
Tankless - agreed in principle. Say its' a pesso canario and the LEO has
no training in that type of breed. What
do you do?
 
Impureclient: So loud music without a lodged complaint is a crime now? Did the officer ask the guy to just turn the music down?
 
I'm not sure what the point of this thread is. Monday morning quarterbacking a shoot may be fun but at the end of the day, nothing is gained. Rather, we should evaluate the incident and try to glean some knowledge from it. Whether or not you think the cop SHOULD have felt like his or his partners' lives were in danger is irrelevant here. The tactics employed up to and after the shoot is where we need to take this thread.

You weren't there for the split-second decision and at the end of the day, what's done is done. Unnecessarily exposing yourself and/or your loved ones to danger puts you in the running for a Darwin award. That is lesson #1 here.
 
guitarguy314 said:
Impureclient: So loud music without a lodged complaint is a crime now? Did the officer ask the guy to just turn the music down?
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If you play with fire, you're going to get burned. This incident and your mentality both remind me of the people who strap AR-15s to their backs and walk around town fishing for a police incident only to get "outraged" when said incident occurs. Yes, it's legal. It's also dumb and begs for city/state governments to pass laws restricting this right. Filming the police from a location where you are not inhibiting them from doing their job is fine and perfectly legal. I also doubt that society at large would have a problem with it. Blasting music (especially crude music) while pacing back and forth with your large, intimidating dog is (possibly), however, is a different story. It may also be legal, but this time it's also dumb. Quit interfering and being an ass just for the sake of being an ass.
 
Ya caught me. I rip tags off of mattresses. Take me in.

But seriously, The facts are that the incident (arrest) was over. The suspect was in the back of the cruiser. That doesn't sound like an interfered with arrest to me.

The cop just wanted to get even with a perceived slight. Too close/too loud etc. He could have just called the guy an idiot and left, but he didn't. He could have wrote him a ticket for disturbing the peace...but he didn't. Instead,

He arrested someone for doing something legal (stupid, yes...but legal). No one was hurt up until that moment. Then the dog went to protect his master, the cop grabbed his collar, the dog SNAPPED at him (heck, my ten pound jack-a-poo snaps at stuff) So the officer shot the dog four times.

Asses can wear badges too.
 
I completely understand the skepticism about shooting a dog in city limits, when people are around. Without a solid, known backstop I have a hard time justifying shooting a dog that isn't actively attacking. However, you should watch the video again. The dog is starting to attack, and the officer had a near point blank shot. The video doesn't show the backstop, the officer seemed to look around and assess that. I think he shot more times than I would have, in that urban setting.

However, in a rural setting where you can clearly see what's behind your target... shoot that dog, every time, repeatedly. I have zero concern for the animal, only for bystanders. That dog isn't worth a drop of police blood, unless there is reasonable concern of hitting a bystander with a stray bullet.
 
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