Policeman sues store because "his holster shot him"

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I had a law class where we studied this crap about being able to sue multiple parties when not sure who is at fault.

The professor used the analogy of 2 hunters firing off into the words and an “innocent bystander” getting hit. In this analogy there isn’t a way to tell which of the two hunters fired the shot so (according to the Professor) the only correct thing to do is to find both hunters liable.

I went ballistic (pardon the pun) when he said this. One of the two is definitely NOT at fault and shouldn’t be held liable. The Professor just held firm that it is less fair for the innocent bystander that was shot not to be “made better” than for the innocent gun owner to have to pay for what he didn’t do. He cited as support for this the tenants of redistributive justice.

This professor even presented us with the idea that a company should be able to be sued even when there hasn’t been an incident where their product has caused damage just as long as their product could have. For example, if a pharmaceutical company makes a vitamin that is found to cause problems with lab rats infected with cancer then a person with cancer that bought the vitamin but didn’t take it should be able to sue because of what could have happened if they had taken the vitamin. His reasoning was that corporations need to be stopped before they can make money off of harming others.

This is ridiculous, so a criminal held at gun point by the homeowner of the house he broke into can sue the gun manufacturer because the homeowner could have shot him? The professor agreed with this.

I have to say, that liberal interpretations of the law really sickens me.
 
The Professor just held firm that it is less fair for the innocent bystander that was shot not to be “made better” than for the innocent gun owner to have to pay for what he didn’t do.
This kind of thinking is what has caused the need for tort reform today. The trouble is that the collectivist mentality has been successfully spread to the masses. :barf: They (the jury pool) don't want to give up their "lottery," i.e., the chance that if they were in a similar situation, a jury would vote to compensate the injured because the defendant [corporation] in in a better position to bear the burden. This sickness began more than a century ago in American jurisprudence and has been accepted as the norm, and now the law, by all judges and law schools.

I can't :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: enough!
 
And what need do hunters or target shooters have for such deadly holsters? They can be used for a criminal or terrorist to conceal a handgun before they mass murder people with it.
 
"There is a slight chance the holster was purchased at Town Police, but I think the suit with Southern Gun will be the one that goes forward," said Slaughter. "Sergeant David is 95 percent sure he bought it at Southern Gun. It's ongoing litigation so I don't want to comment further."
Wow, that is a terrible lawyer. To admit that they arn't even certian where he go the holster. What else doesn't the guy remember. A safty warning?
 
Mantra

Clear your mind and repeat after me:
ohmmmmm
I...am...the...only...person...in...this...room...who...is...professional...enough...to...handle...this...weapon...I...am...the...only...person...in...this room...who is professional...enough...to...handle...this..weapon...I AM...the...ONLY person ...In this room who is...PROFESSIONAL enough...to handle...this weapon. ohmmmmm...ohmmmm...I am the ONLY PERSON...in this room who is...PROFESSIONAL ENOUGH...to handle this weapon...ohmmmm
 
I slipped on a sidewalk a few years back and was injured. I can't really remember what store the sidewalk was in front of so I'm just going to sue two-hundred or so establishments along that strip of road, hopefully that will cover the guilty party

Seeing as how the sidewalk is city property, you might have a problem there. Not only are the shops not liable for accidents on the sidewalk but they could probably sue you for their legal costs. And win.

I had such fun with idiots trying to sue my company. 15 years and not one suit brought successfully to trial.

Had a New York city Fifth Avenue patent and tax attorney write me a letter threatening suit over alleged trademark infringement of Champion Industries' trademark Drexel Heritage. The name of my business was Heritage Furniture Store, Inc. I didn't even bother my attorney. Simply wrote Mr. Fifth Ave. that the Secretary of State of Georgia had approved our incorporation and certified that our name infringed no trademarks over 11 years before. Invited him to take the matter up with the government of Georgia if he had any further questions. Never heard from the doofus again.

I've found that treating people fairly on the one hand, i.e, if your actions cause them injury then pay the medical bills voluntarily; and being ready to play hardball on the other hand will avoid most lawsuits. Many lawsuits can be avoided by being able to accomplish two tasks: 1) Keep the insurance companies away from it and 2) Cheerily inform the plaintiff's attorney that no insurance company is involved and that you will happily appeal any judgement until penniless...thus insuring that said attorney will not get a contingency fee whether he wins the suit or loses the suit. Attorneys understand situations that will result in no possibility of every getting paid. They avoid them like the plague.

What is needed is not really tort reform. Insurance companies need to stop doing short term analysis of cost benefit and settling rather than going to trial. When the plaintiff has a frivolous suit, it should be opposed tooth and nail. When a judge finds that a suit is frivolous, the plaintiff's attorney should be required to pay the legal fees of the defendant, punitive damages for the defendant's mental anguish, etc., and a hefty fine for wasting the time of the court. Idiotic lawsuits would disappear overnight.

What is really needed is banning the most outrageous conflict of interest in the country. Lawyers running for elective office in the legislative and executive branches of government. Passing the bar should disqualify a person from running for election except for judicial positions. Being elected to a position in the legislative or executive branches of government should disqualify a person from testing for the bar. The legislatures make the rules the lawyers use for financial gain. Having lawyers who are also legislators making those rules is a clear conflict of interest.
 
I'm betting he was holstering the gun with the holster in his hand, and not on his belt.

If you read the directions that come with holsters, serveral of them say to insert the gun in the holster prior to putting the on the holster.
 
With suits like this, there's no wonder why nobody wants to serve on a Jury anymore.
Are you kidding me?I hear about suits like this, I wish I could volunteer for the jury pool. It would be a privilege and an honor to render a verdict in this type of case. :D
 
HKMP5SD,

Just trying to figure out how he managed to shoot his hand while holstering. In addition to holstering the gun while holding the holster in his hand, he must have had his hand over the end of the holster.

The zeroth rule of gun handling...don't cross yourself with the muzzle.
 
What is really needed is banning the most outrageous conflict of interest in the country. Lawyers running for elective office in the legislative and executive branches of government. Passing the bar should disqualify a person from running for election except for judicial positions. Being elected to a position in the legislative or executive branches of government should disqualify a person from testing for the bar. The legislatures make the rules the lawyers use for financial gain. Having lawyers who are also legislators making those rules is a clear conflict of interest.

True words.

It occurs to me either these lawyers or legisltors would first have to know shame.
 
Caution, thread drift!
Simply wrote Mr. Fifth Ave. that the Secretary of State of Georgia had approved our incorporation and certified that our name infringed no trademarks over 11 years before. Invited him to take the matter up with the government of Georgia if he had any further questions.
Bzzzt! This is an unfortunate, but common, misconception. Which leads us to . . .


Lawyers running for elective office in the legislative and executive branches of government. Passing the bar should disqualify a person from running for election except for judicial positions. Being elected to a position in the legislative or executive branches of government should disqualify a person from testing for the bar. The legislatures make the rules the lawyers use for financial gain. Having lawyers who are also legislators making those rules is a clear conflict of interest.
:rolleyes: That chip on your shoulder must have some magnetic properties that are interfering with the the tin foil lining in your hat.:neener: :scrutiny: Consider applying the same standard in other fields. Should being a licensed plumber exclude you from ever being a plumbing inspector?
 
Henry Bowman said:
... Consider applying the same standard in other fields. Should being a licensed plumber exclude you from ever being a plumbing inspector?

Maybe not but I do think one could make a case that being a licensed plumber should disqualify you from being on the board that sets the codes that plumbers have to follow. I think you will find that a closer analogy. If you set the standards real low you could make better profits, even if that isn't what's best for the consumer.
 
Passing the bar should disqualify a person from running for election, [strike]except[/strike] especially for judicial positions. Being elected to a position in the legislative or executive branches of government should disqualify a person from testing for the bar. The legislatures make the rules the lawyers use for financial gain. Having lawyers who are also legislators making those rules is a clear conflict of interest.

Typo fixed.
 
Maybe not but I do think one could make a case that being a licensed plumber should disqualify you from being on the board that sets the codes that plumbers have to follow. I think you will find that a closer analogy. If you set the standards real low you could make better profits, even if that isn't what's best for the consumer.
Actually, just the opposite happens. The standards are set unnecessarily high in order to reduce competition with high entry barriers.
 
If you read the directions that come with holsters, serveral of them say to insert the gun in the holster prior to putting the on the holster.

I seem to remember my manuals saying the weapon should be unloaded as well, at least while you test it initially.

I've heard of Glocks going off all by themselves when placed in a SERPA holster... Good thing I carry a 1911 in mine.
 
I've heard of Glocks going off all by themselves when placed in a SERPA holster...
Update: GLOCKS DO NOT GO OFF ALL BY THEMSELVES!! Something has to depress the trigger, whether it be a finger, a thumb strap, or the plastic cinch on a parka, but GLOCKS don't have it in 'em to just "go off all by themselves." If you've heard of that, it must have been from an idiot that shouldn't have a GLOCK, or ANY brand of gun, anywhere around them within reach in the first place.
 
With suits like this, there's no wonder why nobody wants to serve on a Jury anymore.

I would love to serve on his jury.

"Your Honor,
We the jury have listened to all the evidence and find that the plaintif is an idiot, should lose his job working with weapons, needs to pay restitution back to his employer for any of their costs associated with treating his injury, needs to pay all court and legal costs out of his own pocket back to the gun store and holster manufacturers, and make a public apology to the court for bringing a frivolous lawsuit trying to blame others for his own stupidity"
 
I don't know Sergeant Naitraj David, but I worked for Karen Allen and I strongly suspect that she is more man than he was before he shot himself.

May G_d have mercy on him, because Karen Allen will have none.

David
 
Hey Zen, your description answers the question of why that professor is teaching law and not actually practicing law.
 
Ban cows. Because they might be made into leather that might be made into a holster that someone might shoot themselves by misusing. :rolleyes:

Seriously, I hope there's a countersuit.
 
This idea of redistrubition of wealth with tort law suits is the mantra of the Democratic Party. Now most citizens do not know this. I have listend to conferences and read alot about it. It is another way to fight Capitalism.. They do think it honorable to do this. They do not care what harm they cause to the innocent victim of their plan. Why do you think the trial lawyers support the Democrats. Why do Democrats scream about tort reform. Because it takes one of their anti-capitalist weapons away from them. Oh they say we are protecting the little person with no power aganist the BIG EVIL corporation etc. Our justilce system is a fraud and deserves a new name because JUSTICE is not what it is about. And the elite lawyers are the ones who do and have polluted the system. BAH! I despise this cop and his lawyer. I could not live with myself if I did this. But like the saying goes "The love of money is the root of all evil" These two people are evil.
 
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