Policy reminder from your friendly campus police
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Gordon Fink
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Voter-registration cards perhaps? 
~G. Fink
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Same deal here in PA. The worst of it is that the college I attend runs the police academy at which I recently shot a 300 (beating out the five cadets whom are now police officers in this city), and they won't let me have a pistol on campus despite my law enforcement training and demonstrable skill-at-arms. My NRA instructor certification just expired, but my safety is still above par.
A guy just got expelled for having a weapon in his dorm room. It was either a machete or a hatchet, not sure which. I myself was recently chastized (by a guy who sat three seats down from me at the academy and is now a campus security guard) for wearing my Leatherman on campus.
A guy just got expelled for having a weapon in his dorm room. It was either a machete or a hatchet, not sure which. I myself was recently chastized (by a guy who sat three seats down from me at the academy and is now a campus security guard) for wearing my Leatherman on campus.
Henry Bowman
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Petty tyrants...
Rickstir
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Please inform them that Columbine High School had the same policy.
Chupacabra
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University of Washington has the same policy. :banghead:
While not technically against the law to carry on campus, I would probably be fired if I was caught.
If they make a fuss over my leatherman or folding knife though, I'm going to tell them to stick it where the sun don't shine.
While not technically against the law to carry on campus, I would probably be fired if I was caught.
If they make a fuss over my leatherman or folding knife though, I'm going to tell them to stick it where the sun don't shine.
cidirkona
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Same policy here at the University of Arizona, although an officer once told me I wouldn't get in trouble if I had a completely unloaded firearm in a parked car out of sight.
In Arizona, fortunately, only knives with a 4" length and longer* are weapons. Anything less than that is a box opener, which is legal to carry just about anywhere in Az... try carrying a box cutter into the court house though.. ha! My 3.9" folding box opener is always clipped to the inside of my pocket...
Weapon length knives cannot be carried on campus and and need to be 'open carry' displayed unless possessed by a CCW holder.
-Colin
In Arizona, fortunately, only knives with a 4" length and longer* are weapons. Anything less than that is a box opener, which is legal to carry just about anywhere in Az... try carrying a box cutter into the court house though.. ha! My 3.9" folding box opener is always clipped to the inside of my pocket...
Weapon length knives cannot be carried on campus and and need to be 'open carry' displayed unless possessed by a CCW holder.
-Colin
Vern Humphrey
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My response would be:
Thanks for the information regarding the College's unfortunate disarmament policy. I must assume that the College automatically accepts absolute liability for my safety, and is willing to adequately compensate me or my family if I become a victim of violent crime while on campus, or on the way to or from the campus.
Thanks for the information regarding the College's unfortunate disarmament policy. I must assume that the College automatically accepts absolute liability for my safety, and is willing to adequately compensate me or my family if I become a victim of violent crime while on campus, or on the way to or from the campus.
The university that I attend also prohibits "dangerous weapons." This includes firearms, knives, pepper spray, cudgels, and batons. I am pretty sure that it includes your car.
This is very reassuring, considering that there have been two murders close to campus in the last month.
This is very reassuring, considering that there have been two murders close to campus in the last month.
p35
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Washington state law is pretty specific that local jurisdictions can't restrict carrying by CCW holders except in certain limited circumstances. I understand that TESC's Attorney General has told them that their "no weapons" policy can't be enforced under State law against CCW holders; I can't say about the UW's AG but the rules are the same statewide.
Standing Wolf
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I guess students' lives aren't worth defending.
sm
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One does not have to park on campus.
Also some parking lots are not defined as "campus" in some college handbooks.
Yes we have that no-no about firearms on campus here in AR as well. We do have armed security at my current school, not all do I understand.
Late classes and it is dark at 10 pm or later. Not bashful about asking for a Security to drive alongside a group of us to make sure we make it to respective vehicles. Security has never said anything about those folks with a 4 D cell maglight in hand - It is dark...like a umbrella in the backpack, might add a bit of weight - "comforting not comfortable" , nice to have if needed.
I often get a ride to my vehicle "off campus" from a fellow student or security...just being respectful about the parking situations...or maybe no real good place to park at the time my night class starts.
Heck I've used my Leek clipped on my pocket many times in class to cut a pull string...on campus handed to security to cut the string to tie the yellow tape for 'events parking',other times as well. "Thanks Steve" is what I get in reply.
I don't flaunt my knife , nor do other students, we do use them in a responsible manner... just happen to be clipped to pocket, keeps the pockets from wearing out as pockets do if carried in the pocket. Some instructors.carry their clipped as well - for the same reason I'm sure We were told NOT to use them for Cat 5 e cable...and the like. "Dulls the blades and not proper procedure for cabling "...especially for a lab.
Also some parking lots are not defined as "campus" in some college handbooks.
Yes we have that no-no about firearms on campus here in AR as well. We do have armed security at my current school, not all do I understand.
Late classes and it is dark at 10 pm or later. Not bashful about asking for a Security to drive alongside a group of us to make sure we make it to respective vehicles. Security has never said anything about those folks with a 4 D cell maglight in hand - It is dark...like a umbrella in the backpack, might add a bit of weight - "comforting not comfortable" , nice to have if needed.
I often get a ride to my vehicle "off campus" from a fellow student or security...just being respectful about the parking situations...or maybe no real good place to park at the time my night class starts.
Heck I've used my Leek clipped on my pocket many times in class to cut a pull string...on campus handed to security to cut the string to tie the yellow tape for 'events parking',other times as well. "Thanks Steve" is what I get in reply.
I don't flaunt my knife , nor do other students, we do use them in a responsible manner... just happen to be clipped to pocket, keeps the pockets from wearing out as pockets do if carried in the pocket. Some instructors.carry their clipped as well - for the same reason I'm sure We were told NOT to use them for Cat 5 e cable...and the like. "Dulls the blades and not proper procedure for cabling "...especially for a lab.
Sylvilagus Aquaticus
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uh...y'got a cops-only base-ball team there, Sparky?
I don't even want to point out the theater department. Them Shakeyspeare plays got swords.
Regards,
Rabbit.
Fatcat
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Here at Oregon State, the law (as far as I know) only forbids "weapons" on the University housing and dining properties, which basically covers dorms and eateries. Other than those places, I haven't found any law forbidding it. We even have an indoor range on campus.
I've wondered about this myself.
In Indiana the statute only specifies "schools" as being off-limits; while most states also make a distinction about universities, we don't. It seems to me that school mean <18 and university/college mean >18; but then again lawmakers don't make sense, they make laws.
In Indiana the statute only specifies "schools" as being off-limits; while most states also make a distinction about universities, we don't. It seems to me that school mean <18 and university/college mean >18; but then again lawmakers don't make sense, they make laws.
Josey
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The ONLY ADW call I ever responded to as a CPO was a stabbing. A racial remark ended in one person being stabbed, with a FORK! Plastic "sporks" were soon put out in place of metal cutlery. Steak night at the campus dining rooms was a sight to behold. NO knives and plastic "sporks". Get the image?
papercut
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A brain capable of rational thought.
Sorry, zahc--that means you cannot be possessed, used, or stored anywhere on campus, except by licensed law enforcement personnel.
Hold on a sec
Understand that that policy is reflective of the Ohio CCW law and not exclusive to any particular educational institution. Right, wrong or indifferent it is the law of the land and has been for , oh, 6 days now. IIRC weapons in cars on campus is permitted by statute, if not the policy of the school. Of course, there is no better place to steal stuff out of cars than a college campus, except for maybe hospital garages. And there are exceptions for theatrical weapons, sporting weapons such as foils, historical artifacts and so forth.
Yeah, it is bogus, but the fault is not with the schools, but with the law. People in Ohio wanted CCW so badly I think they/we got suckered into accepting a garbage piece of legislation out of desperation. Be careful what you wish for....... While many schools have policies than prohibit firearms, your tuition money spends anywhere. Under Ohio law, any school that did not or does not prohibit firearms now in effect cannot allow them, or they could very well wind up in a precarious liability position if they tacitly allow students or staff to violate the ORC.
Faculty clubs have the same liquor permitting process as any other food service facility. Frankly, with the quality of students enrolling nowadays they should also have Xanax dispensers.
Understand that that policy is reflective of the Ohio CCW law and not exclusive to any particular educational institution. Right, wrong or indifferent it is the law of the land and has been for , oh, 6 days now. IIRC weapons in cars on campus is permitted by statute, if not the policy of the school. Of course, there is no better place to steal stuff out of cars than a college campus, except for maybe hospital garages. And there are exceptions for theatrical weapons, sporting weapons such as foils, historical artifacts and so forth.
Yeah, it is bogus, but the fault is not with the schools, but with the law. People in Ohio wanted CCW so badly I think they/we got suckered into accepting a garbage piece of legislation out of desperation. Be careful what you wish for....... While many schools have policies than prohibit firearms, your tuition money spends anywhere. Under Ohio law, any school that did not or does not prohibit firearms now in effect cannot allow them, or they could very well wind up in a precarious liability position if they tacitly allow students or staff to violate the ORC.
Faculty clubs have the same liquor permitting process as any other food service facility. Frankly, with the quality of students enrolling nowadays they should also have Xanax dispensers.
Send a letter like this to the "Letters to the Editor" section of your campus paper.
-I just recieved a notification that the University has banned all types of weapons from the campus property. With the recent passage of Ohio concealed carry i was getting VERY nervous. I am so very glad that the university has seen fit to protect me and my chosen lifestyle. I can now engage in all of my hobbies without worry of being injured or god fobid killed. Again, thank you U of O.
Signed, The Campus Rapist.
You may want to send it from a PO box though.
-I just recieved a notification that the University has banned all types of weapons from the campus property. With the recent passage of Ohio concealed carry i was getting VERY nervous. I am so very glad that the university has seen fit to protect me and my chosen lifestyle. I can now engage in all of my hobbies without worry of being injured or god fobid killed. Again, thank you U of O.
Signed, The Campus Rapist.
You may want to send it from a PO box though.
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