Political correctness has gone stark staring bonkers (again) . . .

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From AOL News (http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/raccoons-invade-los-angeles/20061119090309990001):

2006/11/19 Updated: 10:09 AM EST

Raccoons Invade Los Angeles Neighborhood

By NOAKI SCHWARTZ, AP

LOS ANGELES (Nov. 17) -- One balmy summer night, Larna Hartnack awoke to the cries of her dog Charlie and, to her horror, found the Dalmatian in a battle for her life — pinned by a gang of raccoons that tore into her flesh and nearly gnawed off her tail.

Charlie survived. But recurring raccoon attacks on dogs and other creatures have unnerved people along the Venice Canals, a funky, well-to-do beach neighborhood packed with ardent dog lovers, many of whom are now afraid to walk their pets at night or leave them alone in the back yard.

Communities around the country are plagued by destructive or aggressive raccoons, and many of them routinely trap, remove and even kill the animals. But this being California, the city's animal-control agency is instead urging people to try to get along with the raccoons — a notion that strikes some as political correctness gone wild.

"What we're trying to inculcate in the L.A. community is a reverence for life. If we have more reverence for life, it translates into all our programs — for women and infants, the elderly and everybody in our community," said Ed Boks, the head of Los Angeles Animal Services.

"As we develop these programs that demonstrate our compassion for creatures completely at our mercy, it makes for a more compassionate society all the way around."


Wildlife experts are commending the city for resisting demands to remove the raccoons. No-kill policies are rare among animal-control agencies in the U.S., and most apply only to dogs and cats. In Los Angeles, rabies in raccoons is not as big a threat as it is in other parts of the country, and there may be more sympathy for wildlife.

"Los Angeles is typically one of the more progressive agencies," said John Hadidian, director of the Humane Society's urban wildlife program. "I consider this a welcome sign that others might follow soon."

The strategy has angered some residents.

"Oh my God. I don't think I've ever been more insulted as a woman to be compared to a voiceless raccoon," said Hartnack, owner of Charlie the Dalmatian. She said the agency "seems more concerned with making a political statement than protecting people."

"Once you've been attacked by these animals and have them hanging out on your deck, your respect for their lives is lower than your respect for your animal's life and your own security," she said.


The animal-control agency sees people as part of the problem: They are tempting raccoons by leaving dog food and trash bags unguarded.

"If you live in a high-crime area and don't put bars on your windows and you've had break-ins before, you're asking for it," said Gregory Randall, a wildlife specialist with the agency. "Our goal here is coexistence and making the alterations you need to make."

In most cases, the city traps animals only if they are injured or attack people, he said.

Wildlife experts are reluctant to move the raccoons to the wilderness because they could have trouble surviving and might introduce diseases. Also, Randall said raccoons do not attack unless cornered.

He advised residents to try to keep raccoons out of their homes by getting rid of trellises and bougainvillea, closing cat doors and locking up kibble. Strobe lights, motion-activated sprinklers and talk radio can scare off the animals.

Venice Canals, a community of 400 homes, is the kind of place where nearby shopkeepers greet customers and their dogs by name and often have a bowl of water or dog biscuits on hand. One resident turned part of his property into a dog park.

Dogs have not been the only victims of the raccoons. They have chomped on ducks, a parrot and the legs of a turtle that they dug out of hibernation. Nadine Parkos, former president of the Venice Canals homeowners association, said the koi fish in her pond were massacred.

Some residents tried to trap the raccoons but instead snared two cats and an opossum.

As for Charlie the Dalmatian, fur has grown over her scars, but she still whimpers and cowers when she sees raccoons approaching the family deck.

Hartnack and her husband have bought a BB gun and got the dog a stuffed raccoon.

"She loves attacking it," Hartnack said.


Words fail me . . . an animal agency that's trying to be delicate and sensitive to aggressive animals, at the price of other animals (domestic and wild) wounded and killed by them?

What would BAMBI say?

Think of the CHILDREN!

Any more stereotypes I should add while I'm at it? :evil:
 
Well after all this is happening in California - and the left-wing part of it at that. When ya got Socialist values ya' just have to learn to live with political correctness. Obviously these people will have to do the right thing and give up their pets... :rolleyes:
 
"If you live in a high-crime area and don't put bars on your windows and you've had break-ins before, you're asking for it,"

Or maybe you don't want your kids trapped inside in a fire. You're ASKING FOR criminals to break in by not turning your home into an ugly ersatz prison?

How about controlling the criminals? Or buying a gun?

Sheep.
 
Same people who say women who wear short skirts are "asking" to be raped. Idiotic morons. Thank the Good Lord Above I don't live in Cali.
 
The animal-control agency sees people as part of the problem: They are tempting raccoons by leaving dog food and trash bags unguarded.

"If you live in a high-crime area and don't put bars on your windows and you've had break-ins before, you're asking for it," said Gregory Randall, a wildlife specialist with the agency. "Our goal here is coexistence and making the alterations you need to make."


let's follow this logic. this person seeks to coexist peacefully with pesky racoons. to make this coexistence easier, he/she suggests not leaving things out to tempt them. if you do, it's your fault that they terrorize you. the next statement in the article draws an analogy between this 'tempting' of racoons, and the 'tempting' of criminals, if you should leave your home unbarricaded(your fault again, if you do, and criminals cannot resist the temptation of robbing you). so, for one, apparently humans are no different from and no more able to be responsible for their behaviour than are animals. Secondly, it seems the author would recommend we learn how to coexist with the criminal element as well. cuckoo.
 
Neal Stephenson needs to write some more half-serious dystopian cyberpunk and quit with the boring cryptography tomes that end up on the bargain shelf. Seriously. He found his calling, he blew away Gibson's disjointed vignettes and nonendings as a writer, and then...he stopped writing in the genre.
 
Not just California

I live in Illinois, not Cook County (thank heavens).

I had racoons getting into the attic last summer and I called the animal control department for the county (you know, the one I pay taxes to support).

I told them I needed one of their Hav-a-hart (humane live capture) traps for a good sized raccoon. I used one about 10 years ago when I had a problem with possums moving in under my stroage shed. It was a deal where you took the trap, left a copy of your dirvers license and a $20 deposit and returned the trap when you were done. They even gave you a list of forest preserve sites where you could release the animals.

This time they informed me that they are no longer allowed to offer these traps to the public. They have a store room full of them but, due to a recent court decision involving a local animal right group, "untrained people" are not allowed to trap wild animals and remove them to forest preserves or other locations.

All they could do was give me a list of "professional removal services" that I could hire at about $100 a pop to set out a trap with a can of cat food in it.

Yeah, that'll work. I bought a trap at the local Dick's sporting goods for $45. So far I've moved 5 good sized raccoons. I think I'm going to start dropping them off near the mayors house from now on.
 
Hartnack and her husband have bought a BB gun ...

I'm surprised that nobody picked up on the GIANT leap made by Hartnack here ... she and her (likely metrosexual) husband bought a gun for self defense ... yes, only a BB gun and for use on raccoons, but still a gun.

They have taken their first step...


:D
 
Give me a break...

When did people turn into complete wusses? I dispatched a raccoon with a bat once. Sheesh, just head out there with a flashlight, a golf club and some kibble. Drop off the dead one at your favorite Animal Rights group offices. Problem solved.
 
The animal-control agency sees people as part of the problem: They are tempting raccoons by leaving dog food and trash bags unguarded.
Neatly summed up as "it is the victim's fault."
 
This sounds like a case for SSS. Shoot, shovel and shutup.
A long barreled .22 rifle with subsonic ammo will make about as much noise as a silencer for those little critters out of range of the bat.
 
"If you live in a high-crime area and don't put bars on your windows and you've had break-ins before, you're asking for it," said Gregory Randall, a wildlife specialist with the agency. "Our goal here is coexistence and making the alterations you need to make."


I think the Racoons just forund a new home where they can be appreciated.

The folks who live in Venice should hire a professional animal trapper/ pest control company, and have the racoons relocated to the Home of Gregory Randall, where they can be loved and protected by somone who apreciates the diversity they can add to his neighborhood.:barf:
 
"Strobe lights, motion-activated sprinklers and talk radio can scare off the animals."


The Larry King security system?


Oh, they bought a BB gun? I'm sure that'll make the racoons run in fear. I'd hate to have little balls of metal bouncing off my skin! But, of course, they could always put the 'coon's eye out! A .22LR or a pistol-crossbow would be my choices. If it were me, I'd opt for the pistol-crossbow to prevent the sheriff from investigating a firearm discharge heard from my property.
 
Neal Stephenson needs to write some more half-serious dystopian cyberpunk and quit with the boring cryptography tomes that end up on the bargain shelf.

I suspect he got tired of trying to compete with the increasing absurdities of reality.

And I really, really liked Cryptonomicon.
 
"If you live in a high-crime area and don't put bars on your windows and you've had break-ins before, you're asking for it,"

Well that about sums up progressive states veiws. If you don't box yourself in and hide from danger and wait for your government licensed protectors to come save you then your a bad human being. Even if that is not always practical, or turning your home into a fire trap is not appealing.

However the real problem is the sheep in many places have no respect for animals, so rather than let them have discretion on when something posses them a threat and act accordingly, they are told any hurting of poor animal for any reason is against the law. Because these sheeple governed by a police state can't be expected to govern themselves when they have no practice being allowed to do so. If you say it is okay to kill the raccoons you have people going out slaughtering any and all raccoons for fun and your left with 1 less creature.
So absolutes are made, with legal hurdles and licenses necessary to be allowed any discretion.
Animal Cruelty has been a felony in California since 1988 and carries a maximum jail term of three years, if you hurt a rabid foaming raccoon not immediately posing a threat (mid attack) your a felon. This happened in CA.
 
Once you've been attacked by these animals and have them hanging out on your deck, your respect for their lives is lower than your respect for your animal's life and your own security
There's nothing like a bite of reality to shake the high and mighty liberal position. Like switching on a light.
 
Racoons? I live in the sticks and we had a little problem a couple years ago with them. We had a racoon stealing kittens at ~4am a couple nights in a row. It got two of them. 20Ga and flashlight took care of it. The last kitten it got to lived to tell the tale. About a week later I ran it over. $498 vet bill later it was in a kitty wheel chair, 19 crushed bones. That lucky sucker is still alive 2 years later. None the worse for wear.
 
"If you live in a high-crime area and don't put bars on your windows and you've had break-ins before, you're asking for it," said Gregory Randall, a wildlife specialist with the agency. "Our goal here is coexistence and making the alterations you need to make."

I think both problems can be solved with judicious use of firearms.
I don't know if thier leagal in CA, (probaly not given the way they are there) but a bottle roket would probaly scare the hell out a gang of racoons.
 
We should fly down to LA and start giving some seminars. $200 for 2 hours of "Repeat after me, 'It was coming right for me.' -whack-". :D

Throw in a handy laminated card to read off of and a Louisville Slugger.

Won't attack unless cornered

Or it thinks it can intimidate you (because it's backed off humans before), or it is really hungry, or it has lost its fear of man.

The failure of anti-hunting types to put 2 and 2 together on the rise in animal attacks on humans is staggering. Territorial invasions be damned, I don't care who is in whom's backyard, in residential areas I want wild critters to leave when I come into view.
 
I understand they're doing amazing things with pellet rifles these days. 800+ FPS and a .22 pellet should put paid to the raccoons nicely and discretely.

Does "Venice Canals" really have canals to chuck the bodies into? It sounds like you wouldn't want to be found with a dead raccoon on your property or in your trash can.
 
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