Politician Who Won't Say Pledge Of Allegiance May Be Recalled

[why_me]

So you would have no problem with

Hqaving other religons practice there first amendment rights on public property?
The aryan nation has a church can they practice there "love" on a campus near you?
Christian oppresion is a myth. If it was occuring in this country your tax exempt status would be taken away you would be arrested. What you percieve as an attack is really just separation of church and state.
It really gauls me that a local school board when properly taken over by majority of evangelicals can effectively ban books.
Or as in the estes park scenario. Get a Whopping 246 votes for a recall election for a guy that has been on the board 12 years.
All becuase in MAY of this year a board member decided there wasnt enough patriotism in the meetings.

 

[why_me]

disregard

sorry double post

 

[R.H. Lee]

The aryan nation has a church can they practice there "love" on a campus near you?

No. The aryan nation is neither a church nor a religion. It is a white supremacy organization and seeks to deprive some Americans of their God given rights, relegate them to subordinate status, and kill them. Any reasonable person knows that.

 

[why_me]

Wrong

http://www.adl.org/learn/Ext_US/N_Alliance.asp?xpicked=3&item=16

As it happened, the Cosmotheist Church did receive federal, state and local tax-exempt status, although it lost its state exemptions in 1986 for all but 60 acres and any buildings used exclusively for "religious purposes."

I worship a water heater in my basement. If i get a couple of followers i have established a religon. Can my icons of a rusted water heater also be with your manger scene?

 

[2nd Amendment]

Madeline Murray O'Hair's atheist organization also had tax exempt status. Does that make atheism a religion(it is, of course, but we'll not even go there). And, of course, there's the little item of using government tax exempt status to define a "religion" as support for opposing any religious involvement with/from government...

Like I said to you previously, if you can get enough support then feel free to have whatever wierd celebrations you want. But so far you can't even get a majority, or even a decent sized minority, to oppose Christian examples of worship.

 

[why_me]

Thank you

But so far you can't even get a majority, or even a decent sized minority, to oppose Christian examples of worship.

Which goes directly against the idea of a republic. Mob rule doesnt make a democracy. Its been said in this thread before bigotry is bigotry wether it is racial or religous.

 

[2nd Amendment]

This has not been a Republic for a very long time. It is a functional Democracy(which is why it will not long endure) where the majority makes the decisions on almost everything. Even if it were still a Republic, perhaps even more likely if it were, your type of agenda would still depend on suits and manipulations, not public support.

And bigotry is not bigotry. That is a simplistic mind-set. Racial bigotry has no rational defense, since concrete real-time evidence points to the fallacy of such. OTOH it is highly probable that one religious belief is correct while all others are wrong and it is ALL, including your faith in ego and self called atheism, a matter of faith. Some simply throw around the label of bigot to defend their own views, rather as you are doing in your defense of your religious belief system.

 

[Michigander]

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"

Where is the confusion?

Did Congress pass a law making "The Pledge of Allegiance" official? Or was it a resolution? Or, in this case, are they one and the same? Are they both acts of Congress and therefore within the intent?

What does the word "respecting" in Amendment I mean? Does it mean, "having anything to do with"? Or perhaps it means, "showing of respect." Either way, by Congress making "The Pledge of Allegiance" official would seem to me to be unconstitutional. Same for "In God We Trust" on currency (assuming that was done by an act of Congress).

As for the "practicing" aspect of religion, the people who want to recall the trustee are not Congress. So, as long as the get the signatures required and follow their local city, county and state law, then I see no problem. They could be removing him because he parts his hair on the right instead of the left. So be it.

 

[why_me]

So i assume you believe your belief is the correct one

And all others are wrong.

OTOH it is highly probable that one religious belief is correct while all others are wrong and it is ALL, including your faith in ego and self called atheism, a matter of faith.

It is also probably highly probable that no religon is right. OTOH thinking less of other people because of other religous views is bigotry

bigotry, dogmatism -- (the intolerance and prejudice of a bigot)

 

[2nd Amendment]

Simply beating a dead horse at this point. One into which you are not injecting any new life. Being reasonably confident I've more than made my points, I'll leave it with a couple last comments: By that simplistic definition everyone is a bigot about something, and with such a broad application it ceases to have any meaning at all. Also, if no religion is correct then this means, obviously, neither is yours. That's essentially impossible.


Oh, and BTW, I have no problem acknowledging your first couple lines, either. Like I said back on page one, I make none of these hollow pretentions of tolerance such as those you hide your obvious intolerance behind. But enjoy your convictions, they are at least good for the ego.

 

[Art Eatman]

Geting into personal stuff makes the locks go "Clang".

, Art