grampster
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I don't understand why you'd list Michigan as "pink". We have Shall Issue. We have NO law prohibiting OC even in places where CC is prohibited.
You better hope those blue folks moving in by the thousands form NYC and CA don't turn it blue and introduce an income tax..................Texas has no income tax. 25 years ago Texas legislators realized that there was money to be made by offering a concealed carry license for handguns.
The non refundable cost of the license was $100 or thereabouts. Then there was the mandatory 8 hour class instruction and firearm qualification fee which was usually $50 to $100. Instructor license fees and separate fees for fingerprints and photographs. You were in over $200 before you lined up on the firing line.
And then there were the asinine sub statutes that came with the new law such as If you qualified with a revolver you could only carry a revolver but if you qualified with an auto loader you could carry either. You could have your license revoked if the outline of your concealed firearm, AKA printing, was detectable under your clothing. You could either get a four year license or a two year license but you wouldn’t know which until it was issued to you.
Slowly but surely Texas began revising the draconian laws and costs. Now OC is allowed with permit. Carry on college campuses is allowed. You do not need a license to have a firearm in your vehicle as long as it is concealed. There are reduced or no cost license fees for senior citizens, veterans, retired LEO’s and others. I believe the cost of the license now is less than $100 but you still have to pay for the required class and fingerprints. The state now uses your drivers license or state identification card photograph so no separate cost for that.
There is a small list of places where you can’t carry such as hospitals and establishments that receive the majority of their revenue from open container liquor sales (bars, nightclubs) and any business can refuse service to anyone that has a License To Carry as long as the notice is properly posted on or near the front entrance.
Hoping for constitutional carry before the current governor leaves office.
Because.......Detroit..........and Whitmer.............I don't understand why you'd list Michigan as "pink". We have Shall Issue. We have NO law prohibiting OC even in places where CC is prohibited.
Kansas has actually gotten better over the last few years as opposed to many states getting worse. There is very little I can't do in Kansas and I avail myself of those privileges. Even though I don't need the Concealed Carry permit now, I maintain it to make traveling armed easier and to make gun transfers go easily. There is not as much public land open for shooting as there was when I stayed in Arizona for a few weeks. Lots of BLM land and easy access. But, still plenty of shooting space in Kansas
These criteria skew the rankings to the point where they are nonsensical. Iowa [!] is as gun-unfriendly as New Jersey? You can't be serious!
By these standards, a traditional gun-making state like Connecticut or Massachusetts would be rated gun-friendly even though it had many gun restrictions and few actual gun owners.
Well sorta.Why is that? When I carry for SD, the last thing I want to do is alert any potential criminals that I have a gun. When I am hunting/fishing/camping, that is another matter and not a concern here in FL.
Not only can we carry in places that serve alcohol, we can have some if we so choose. Many states do not allow carry in banks/financial locations, just fine in FL. Not saying FL is THE best, but it most assuredly belongs on the list.
Florida law makes it illegal to use a firearm if your normal faculties are impaired by alcoholic beverages or a controlled substance. ... Therefore, under Florida law, you can legally be as drunk as you can get and still carry your firearm as long as they are not loaded and in your hand and you do not discharge them.
I never said anything anout getting hammered; I said you were allowed to consume. In some states you can't even carry into a restaurant if it serves alcohol, let alone consume any.Well sorta.
Those maps just illustrate which states citizens have loose mouths and blab to poll takers. No gun owner I know in Texas has ever answered any such survey or poll. It ain’t anybody’s business, especially not some anonymous voice on the telephone or Internet.
Only in those states without preemption laws.Seems that what county you live in is as important as what state. Some counties will punish and make an example of people who legally defend themselves.
Correction, Idaho "allows CCW on college campuses" with an Idaho Enhanced CCW License. And even at that, the colleges and universities themselves impose a lot of restrictions as to where on campus CCW is allowed.allows CCW on college campuses
This is what I intensely dislike about this thread topic -- it ALWAYS degenerates into some members denigrating other members' states. If you don't live there, or haven't lived there, just STHU, you cannot possibly know what the true culture and climate of that state is really like.Because.......Detroit..........and Whitmer.............
WTH Delaware??? What can the rest of us do to help?
There is one acid test, as far as I am concerned: does the state allow machine guns, or not?
Only 8.Interesting, how many don’t? Seems redundant to the federal regulations on machine guns.
Whats "OL" mean?
Meh, open carry off your own property is ridiculous anyway. There I said it. I wouldnt actively oppose it, but I have no use for it.
We have very common sense gun laws and have repeatedly struck down leftist/ antigun intrusions despite having endured several of the worst mass shootings in recent years.
I believe we are the most gun-friendly state when corrected for our population and density by far. Just my opinion living here.
Nice to see a state refrain from infringing.Idaho has Concealed Carry and Enhanced Concealed Carry, which meets the requirements of almost every other State; recognizes ALL CCW Permits from any State; has Constitutional Carry; allows open carry; allows CCW on college campuses; has no waiting period (unless determined by a NICS issue); does not require NICS checks with a CCW Permit; CCW is allowed almost everywhere and if carrying in a location that the owner does not allow, it is only punishable as a ticket for trespassing if one refuses to leave.
West Coaster here, stuck in FL. Move to Idaho! You will be glad that you did.I think Florida is a great state when it comes to firearms laws! I really can’t think of anything I’d like to do firearm related that the state of Florida is preventing me from doing.
I can pretty much carry wherever I want, own all types of high cap mags, machine guns, destructive devices and we have very “liberal” laws on the discharge of firearms.
Year after year I am astounded how Florida is able to keep it together. We have less registered Republicans than we do Democrats yet still maintain a Florida Supreme Court all of which was appointed by Republicans, A Republican Governor, Attorney General and two Republican Senators.
However with our easily amended constitution and rapidly changing demographics I don’t think this will last. States like Texas, Arizona and Florida look good for now but will fall in the next election cycle or two.
I am personally looking at Idaho (along with everyone else apparently) specifically Idaho Falls. I’m sending my mom out there next spring to live for a year and get a feel for the place before committing to make the move.
Based on my research and personal travels/experiences I would say Idaho and Wyoming are not only the most gun friendly but also the most likely to remain that way in the coming decades.
Dan
What is it?Our legislators approved a state gun a few years back. I’d say that’s pretty pro gun.
Is there ample BLM land in Wyoming for shooting? If so, it sounds like gun paradise.Wyoming:
I don't see how you can get much better than that.
- No concealed permit required for in state...you can get a permit so you can carry out of state.
- No state background checks, waiting periods etc....private sales included.
- Open carry of course.