Porting: Why do people hate them?

[fxvr5]

It was really interesting to see his trigger finger come off the trigger on the revolvers after reset and slap the front of the inside of the trigger guard. I certainly wouldn't question his practices, he has the trophies, I would just think that even though he wasn't speed shooting in this demonstration, his muscles would just do the same thing no matter the rate of fire, and I would think for somebody looking to shave every 100th/sec off his time his finger would never come off the trigger during a course of fire.

Just an observation is all.

Definitely not saying he should do differently

There's some truth to the statement, "whatever works".

When you're shooting really fast it's tough to fine tune the trigger release/return movement until just when the trigger resets.

Also, if you watch a lot of Jerry's slow motion vids, you'll see him flinch. A lot.

He's not perfect but he's not shooting bullseye. Yet he is still able to hit what he shoots at at amazing speed.

Personally, I think he's a robot/cyborg. No human can do the things he does.

 

[fxvr5]

It was really interesting to see his trigger finger come off the trigger on the revolvers after reset and slap the front of the inside of the trigger guard. I certainly wouldn't question his practices, he has the trophies, I would just think that even though he wasn't speed shooting in this demonstration, his muscles would just do the same thing no matter the rate of fire, and I would think for somebody looking to shave every 100th/sec off his time his finger would never come off the trigger during a course of fire.

Videos that attempt to show how effective porting reduces muzzle rise is almost always poor, and if you bother to watch really close most videos don't show a difference. Plus, you have be sure that you apply the exact same resistance to every shot, which is nearly impossible.

Fortunately, one can use a Ransom Rest to look at the difference porting makes. It is real and measurable.
https://gundigest.com/article/ported-barrel-reduce-recoil

 

[DustyGmt]

There's some truth to the statement, "whatever works".

When you're shooting really fast it's tough to fine tune the trigger release/return movement until just when the trigger resets.

Also, if you watch a lot of Jerry's slow motion vids, you'll see him flinch. A lot.

He's not perfect but he's not shooting bullseye. Yet he is still able to hit what he shoots at at amazing speed.

Personally, I think he's a robot/cyborg. No human can do the things he does.

Yeah, he is very skilled. I have been an admirer of Jerry for a long time, definitely old school. He definitely knows what he is talking about. I was never able to adapt to to his shooting stance though. He isn't all jacked forward with shoulders up high, etc... he just swings the pistol up to his dominant eye and rips a magazine in about 1 1/2 second, all shots on target and makes it look effortless. I find myself leaning forward for those type of shooting drills otherwise my body starts drifting backwards. I wish I could shoot as much as him, that would be the life eh?

 

[armedwalleye]

No skin in the game, but it seems to me most folks with ported guns like them well enough, the hatred comes from being around the folks with ported guns while they're shooting them....

 

[gglass]

I love a good port...

 

[orionengnr]

Not so much "hate" as "why"?

Never saw a reason to own own.

Do what you want, and I will too.

 

[jabram]

Only ported gun I've owned was a G23c. My biggest complaint was most of the time when a round was touched off I would get a face of stinging unburned powder. Combine that with the extra blast and fireball porting seems like a solution to a non-existent problem. The only advantage I can see would maybe be in competitive shooting.

 

[SGW Gunsmith]

I love a good port...

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That's an excellent depiction of the gasses jetting out of those top ports. Shows how gasses can be directed to help counteract muzzle flip.

 

[Riomouse911]

Here is one in a Daniel Defense AR 15 5.56 with 16” barrel.
Now I must admit the muzzle device was actually a suppressor mount with the suppressor removed...which is why it shows flame up and down. But you can still draw an inference about the forces directed upwards through a designed port from the flame shooting a foot or more above the muzzle. (And to forces directed to the sides from a comp. No wonder it sucks standing beside someone shooting a compensated firearm!)



Stay safe.

 

[sparkyv]

Best $100 upgrade I've ever done on any revolver. The concussion and report are greatly diminished with indiscernible increase to recoil. The blanked comp makes shooting this Big Pig much more tolerable...and no more mud dauber nests falling on my head.

For the big bore revolver 454 Casul, 460 S&W, 500 S&W and similar I might be convinced but even then I would probably pass on the option.

 

[SwampWolf]

I'm fond of my eyebrows.

 

[SGW Gunsmith]

I got to fire one of those one of my customers own. What a BEAST! His is the .500 S&W magnum version. Can't even imagine what double action trigger pull would be like, while shooting all five rounds.