Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Robbins290, Nov 4, 2021.
Especially because oddly relatively uncommon calibers like 10mm Auto haven't gone up in price as much as the mainstream calibers, so the price gap for shooting them isn't so bad. .380 ACP and 10mm are the same price hereabouts.
But I also have a couple of 1st gen M&P45's. A compact and a full size, both with the safety. I bought the full size 1st used and didn't care much for it initially. But decided to try one of the Apex replacement triggers. The difference was huge. It now rivals my 1911 for accuracy. I later picked up a compact, also used, and replaced the trigger on it with similar results.
The trigger is so light I wouldn't want it on a version without the safety. If Smith offers a 10mm with the safety I'll buy it. And if it proves to work as well as the 45's might end up selling the Glock.
There are other 10's out there that suit everything a shooter would want including striker fired, and Springfield as well as Glock have already done that with a track record. As far as hammer guns go, I'd take a 10mm Tanfo in polymer any day over either. As it is I'll take a steel frame for 10, and leave the M&P to my .40/.357 Sig.
If they do their part, I'll do mine.
I'd expect S&W to offer a large-frame 10mm M&P with a magazine capacity holding maybe two rounds more than the same large-frame M&P in .45acp ... So at best, 12+1rounds.
When Sig produced their large-frame, single-stack P220 series in 10mm, they could have easily engineered a single column magazine holding 9-, 10- or even an 11-rds, but instead chose to limit capacity to a stingy 8-rds, same as with their P220 .45 mags.
Heck, even S&W's old 10XX-series pistols, also single-stacks, offered a 9+1 load-out.
Single column mag nose dive issues
Ah yeah, no.
Funny that Sig offers a perfectly functioning single-stack 10-rd mag for the in .45acp P220 models; yet not for the 10mm P220s (?).
As far as factory single-stack mags having 'non-standard' capacities, you do know that S&W once made 11- and 15-rd 10XX-series mags for use in the FBI's model 1076 pistols?
I've seen and handled three of these elongated single-column 10mm magazines over the years. Other than the weird-looking length of the mag body, they loaded and functioned the same as the standard 9-rd mags.
When SIG sold a P220 in 9mm, how many rounds did it carry?
For that matter, what is the largest capacity single column 9mm pistol you know?
How many SIG P220 versions in 10mm does SIG offer with an aluminum frame and a 4.4" barrel? None.
The only option is a stainless frame with a 5" barrel. I don't believe SIG feels capacity is an issue for their 10mm P220.
Wrong. ... Their buyers do, that's why their asking for Sig to make a 10-rd 10mm mag for they P220s. Check out the SigTalk Forums sometime.
That, and there've been complaints that Sig should've offered a 10mm model on a similar double-stack large frame like the .45acp P227 model. Easy 11+1 or 12+1 capacity in 10mm.
My point wasn't what the buyers want, but rather what SIG can, or wants to sell.
Hey, I'd like a six shot S&W 686 in .45 Auto, but it isn't going to happen.
S&W does offer an extended mag for the M&P 45.
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