barnfrog
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I've seen some powder storage set ups that are definitely not NFPA compliant. You, on the other hand, seem to be in pretty good shape in that regard.
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45/30-06OKIE
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Yeah idk if storing powder in a snap on toolbox is appropriate but it's out of sight at least. And don't OSHA laws apply to commercial businesses only? I mean, I'm not advocating you store an open jug of powder right in front of your big buddy propane heater, but I mean, as long as your half way sensible...I've seen some powder storage set ups that are definitely not NFPA compliant. You, on the other hand, seem to be in pretty good shape in that regard.
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Lots of local towns and cities have laws about powder storage. Usually it's something along the lines of 10 lbs max unless stored in a 1"-thick-walled wooden box, then 20 lbs max. Not sure how many people conform
barnfrog
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National Fire Protection Association codes and standards are different from OSHA regulations. Many of them amount to simply recommendations, but local and state governments can adopt them as part of their laws and regulations. In instances where there's no law or reg and the NFPA standard is the "best available" guidance, you could theoretically be held liable if someone is harmed as a result of your failure to follow the standard, but a lot of people are comfortable taking that risk.
barnfrog
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That's the NFPA standard.
1KPerDay
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Thanks
Mine's all sitting on a shelf - I'm non conformist.
45/30-06OKIE
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20lbs? Uh I'm pretty sure we all have wayyy more than that, myself included. Hmm. I'm friends with an older guy who was in the police department with dad a long time ago and he's a commercial reloader and his powder is all on shelves in his outbuilding so idk.
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We had a house fire, '83.
Ladies Auxiliary arrived before fire trucks. They set up tables with coffee and donuts.
Firemen arrive (vol dept) and are standing around, waiting on someone to tell them what to do.
I grab one, point to back corner and tell him, "that room has 10# of gun powder and 10k rounds of ammo in it."
He starts grabbing men and pointing. Fire was out in 5 minutes.
They start into house, Wife had forgotten parrot, getting kids out. Door opened and they could hear yelling, "FIRE, GD IT, FIRE!"
Ladies Auxiliary arrived before fire trucks. They set up tables with coffee and donuts.
Firemen arrive (vol dept) and are standing around, waiting on someone to tell them what to do.
I grab one, point to back corner and tell him, "that room has 10# of gun powder and 10k rounds of ammo in it."
He starts grabbing men and pointing. Fire was out in 5 minutes.
They start into house, Wife had forgotten parrot, getting kids out. Door opened and they could hear yelling, "FIRE, GD IT, FIRE!"
1KPerDay
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Um, maybe put out the fire?
barnfrog
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The NFPA site isn't terribly user friendly. The Alliant site has some excerpts. The one in question for this discussion is:
10-3.7 Smokeless propellants intended for personal use in quantities not exceeding 20 lb (9.1 kg) may be stored in original containers in residences. Quantities exceeding 20 lb (9.1 kg), but not exceeding 50 lb (22.7 kg), may be stored in residences if kept in a wooden box or cabinet having walls or at least 1-inc. (25.4-mm) nominal thickness.
But there's nobody out there inspecting houses to make sure people are storing their powder correctly. Until something goes wrong, there's very little chance you'll be hassled about it.
I tried to give some away not long ago, all they had to do was make a short road trip..........still sitting there......
Dang that's ugly
was the lid not tight? or is this a Alabamy thing?
45/30-06OKIE
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What powder were you trying to give away?
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Around here we’re more under the thumb of insurance regulators than Johnny Law. Our local fire and Sheriff are good people who care about their work. In the big city the FD policy is to control the structure fire and try to limit it from spreading to other buildings and/or wild spaces. In other words, let it burn. If they find out you are storing explosives - like black powder and primers - then they won’t get near the structure. But they will conduct an arson investigation by default. You have to prove that the fire was neither predictable nor preventable. Otherwise it’s considered negligence. Insurance companies won’t pay for negligence.
Which is reason number 125 why we don’t live in the big city.
I highly recommend along with checking your lead levels and powder stores everyone checks out their insurance policies and local policies. Not just the criminal and building codes but the general conduct policies of the FD for your district.
One of them was a mostly full pound of Bullseye, great stuff, but I'm not using it, and it's lonely.
Random 8
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Need some guys closer to me that give away powder! I'll even take the unknown/contaminated/going bad stuff. I have uses for it. Been experimenting with NFA approved rocketry lately. That Bullseye would have been nice for the back yard proving grounds.
. Been experimenting with NFA approved rocketry lately. That Bullseye would have been nice for the back yard proving grounds.
johnjohn
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If I ever locate mine again I will examine it very closely.
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