Pregnancy and guns

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Well, I'm about as dumb as a brick. The only credentials I got are a lot of miles under my boots. My advice is listen to your doctor, and do what YOU think is right. I an't never been pregnant, so I'm fresh out of first hand experience to offer.

However, I would like to congratulate you. Kids are great. Especially when they're someone elses, and I can give them back when they cry. :neener:
 
From reading the first page and a half or so and skimming the rest, I think the crux of the problem is the focus on the noise the baby hears without regard to the pressure wave associated with loud sounds. Is it possible the pressure wave passes through the amniotic fluid and harms the infant when its tissues compress? Is there a similar problem when a person shoots a firearm underwater, or is exposed to a pressure wave? Another example of this effect is with dynamite fishing.

Though the terms are disputable for the effects, I think research into "hydrostatic shock" and "hydrodynamic shock" will yield some insight int o this problem.

Edit: As for self-defense for pregnant women, wouldn't a suppressed .45 be a better option than 9mm? From what I understand, most .45 ACP loading are naturally subsonic or barely exceed the Mach 1 threshold, so potency is not lost.
 
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Thanks for all your input

Thanks for your input. All I know if that if anyone tries to mess with me before I get too huge preggers, I have two dogs that will more likely bite to protect me and I have some martial arts self defense training ha ha.

As of now, I beginning to get the dreaded morning sickness so I don't think I will be going much of anywhere much less taking a class or shooting at any targets.
 
thanks for the post XavierBreath: printing and saving.

The Mrs. and I have talked about this and when we decide to spawn (soon I hope) she is going to get an Air soft copy of her gun. She'll practice with that to avoid sound and chemicals. Several of those Air Soft look alikes are pretty good copies.

She'll still carry as long as possible. I might see if she'll thake my P3AT and get one of those neck holsters for her.

Oh, did she buy it yet? What's her budget, I can reccomend some nicer ones than the spring powered ones.
 
Razorburn is confused about the difference between knowledge and experience. Just follow your Dr's advice and not that of an arrogant pre-med student who has some knowledge and no experience!
 
txmommy,
First, congratulations!
Second, despite the debate here, I stand by my original position stated above. Dr. Fabrice Czarnecki and Elizabeth Kennedy have done a bit of research in this area. The following links may be helpful.

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Another Link

Do what you feel is best for yourself and your child. Your child is counting on Mommy to make the right decision.
 
Those links gave some excellent info. That is the kind of info I have been looking for. I was all excited to go to the range and get my shooting test over with, but what it really comes down to is the amount of time it takes me shoot the required 50 rounds for the test, I would be wondering what the heck is the baby doing or getting exposed to? It's enough to drive me crazy wondering about it. I am going to forward on the links to my handgun instructor. He is happy with whatever I decide to do.

I am going to suggest that my hubby get his CHL, that way at least when we are driving together we will be able to legally carry and protect ourselves. Since I am a mother of a toddler as well, I usually don't go to lots of places by myself if I don't have to just for the fact that most mothers are vulnerable when out doing errands with small children. You have to put the toddler or infant in the cart/stroller, strap them in the cart, get the groceries, finish shopping and then go out to the car - then when the mom gets to the car, she has to turn her attention to the child to put him in the car seat properly, then load the groceries, and then put the cart up wherever it goes (which requires the mom to leave her child for a small amount of time in the car within her sight, or just stick the cart wherever). All of these actions require the mom to have her back turned while getting all these tasks completed, so I usually try to be smart about where I park the car and be observant about people and where I go to be safe and get the my errands over with as fast as I can within reason.
 
txmommy ~

Difficult call. Have you talked it over with your own doc? I would.

Oh, parking lots & car seats. I hear you! At one time I had five kids under six years old (no twins, just the baby-a-year plan), and sometimes it seemed I spent my entire life getting them in & out of those darn seats.

I wrote up some of my ideas about that in an article at http://www.corneredcat.com/Practical/parking.aspx

To my way of thinking, just realizing that it is a vulnerable time goes a long way towards making it safer. Once you're aware of the problem, you look around more -- and that makes you look like a more difficult victim to attack.

Welcome to THR and congrats on the new little life. :cool:

pax
 
When my wife was pregnant with our two kids we asked her doctor about shooting and he told her to have at it with no restrictions. So far we have two normal looking and functioning kids. Whether there are any long term effects I cannot yet say.
 
Gus,

Not to argue any points with anyone, about whom is the more knowledgeable doctor or expert, I prefer to get back to your question and to answer you directly on your question. There is a lot of controversy among the so called experts. I will use one exampole of something from this threa that I think has some grea advice, and maybe some not so great advice, but none bad; then I will add my thoughts.

Lead is insidious and accumulates. If you're going to shoot - as my wife's OB who is familiar with these things says - avoid all exposure to lead. That means long clothes, respirator, changing clothes immediately after shooting and washing exposed areas with cold water, outdoor ranges and CleanFire ammunition. Her advice was to avoid shooting in general while pregnant. You won't lose that much skill, and damage from lead is forever.
I agree with most of the things said above. As collateral duties on my job, I was a firearms instructor for 14 years. Our agency would allow pregnant agents to wear face/dist masks to avoid breathing in lead, and if I remember rightly they could also avoid the range altogether at their option while pregnant. When you leave a range, it is always a very good idea to change clothing if you are at all concerned about lead exposure, keep on the respirator mask while doing so. Studies have shown that lead from a range is tracked home on boots/shoes, jackets, pants, shirts and so forth. In addition a shower right after the range is also recommended.

If the above mentioned obstetrician means use of lead free ammo by the term CleanFire ammo, forget about its overall effectiveness unless you are shooting on a range where lead ammunition is not used. Your bullets, whether lead or lead free, will kick up whatever particulate lead is on the range and that is most of your concern if shooting jacketed bullets. Avoid non-jacketed lead bullets altogether.

As to indoor versus outdoor ranges, there is a possible mistake in suggesting outdoor over indoor ranges. Some studies (info I received word of mouth from many other range officers and in classes I took, and reports I have seen at work) have shown that exposure to airborne lead sometimes is actually much higher at outdoor ranges dependent upon conditions while shooting as compared to an indoor range with a properly working ventilation system. Different factors can be the wind direction, no wind, humidity, and so forth. In addition, any particulate lead, in the area of the firing line, all the way down the shooting lanes, an indoor range is usually swept or vacuumed up by range personnel daily - if it is a well kept range. At an outdoor range, lead and other contaminants are there on the ground, and in the ground, on the concrete, and in the parking lot, built up over many years of use.

As for the noise levels having an effect on the fetus, my understanding is yes noise can effect a fetus. So too can the concussion from firing large bore rifles and shotguns.

As for washing your hands, face, arms, other exposed areas with cold water being better than using warm or hot water, that possibly is a mistake. If it is 90 degrees out when you shoot, then you wash with cold water, my belief is you could potentially trap more lead, or other contaminants, inside your pores than you have washed away because the cold water will cause your pores to close instead of open, and the contaminants are already in the pores. Check with a doctor on this, especially a dermatologist. I use warm water, but first I use Go-Jo, or something like Boraxo. I find this removes lead better, and can actually see the difference when I have been shooting 22 lead ammo. Use cold water for your clothing if you want, but I prefer again to use warm, it cleans them better and gets the range debris out better from what I can see. I always use the second rinse cycle.

Also remember that lead is not the only contaminant with which you will come in contact while shooting. Others are: gun powder, oils, and cleaning solvents. Even in small residual amounts, cleaning solvents absorbed through your skin, or inhaled, could potentially be a threat to a developing fetus. If you shoot - wear gloves while handling the firearm, and wear a respirator or dust/vapor mask, and wear full body covering clothing, including a hat. Trace amounts of powder residue, oils and solvents are all over the gun, and possibly in the air. Once done shooting, have someone else clean the firearm for you.

As to shooting early in pregnanacy as opposed to later, remember that different effects can be had from different things at various points during the pregnancy. There probably have been few to no comprehensive studies on all the effects of a mother enjoying shooting sports on a fetus during the term of a complete pregnancy, but there are quite possibly studies out there on how certain contaminants or sound effects a fetus at different stages of the pregnanacy.

The best overall advice, for a pregnant woman, may be to avoid shooting while pregnant, just as you should avoid smoking, alcohol while pregnant. I can tell you, that while I wish you the best during your pregnancy, and during motherhood, but also that I am happy I am a man. Having to stop shooting for 9 months could be torture.:)

Good luck, and bring that baby up to be a fine marksman/markswoman!

All the best,
Glenn B
 
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